Vegan Reformed - Praises Meat's Benefits

[PaleoPhil]

A poignant story both sad and happy...

laney
September 23rd, 2010
11:58 am

"Hi, so this is what I want to say on the vegetarian [posts]. I have read back and forth that some say a plant based diet is the most healthy and I have read the opposite as well. And of course everyone has data to back up their hypothesis. I don’t have data, but I do have my own life experience. I was raised vegan by a very well intentioned mother. My staple foods growing up were brown rice, millet, barley, quinoa, soy milk, tofu, sea vegetables, squash, yams, sweet potatoes and fruits. My mother never smoked, drank alcohol and was an avid yogini. At 54, my mother died from a horrible autoimmune disease. No one could believe that she died. She was so thin and healthy! But by the time she died, her osteoporosis was so bad that she had 70% bone density loss. She had compression fractures up and down her spine, and couldn’t even be moved in a wheelchair, she needed to be lifted up and down in a stretcher flat on her back. Which was easy because she only weighed around 80 pounds at her sickest. Before she died, she said to me, “I think we made a mistake here…” and she made me promise that I’d try to eat meat. I was very resistant after her death, believing that it was not her diet that killed her, it was an autoimmune disease. But eventually I gave in and began to eat dairy, then fish, then chicken and turkey, then red meat. It was the best thing I ever did. My fingernails began to grow, my hair became thicker and more lustrous, and I stopped getting sick (I used to have sinus infections all the time– I haven’t had one in years). But the most notable difference was that I stopped being dizzy and foggy. I used to be pretty spacey, had trouble concentrating and was always dizzy when I stood up. That all stopped pretty instantly. I was 28 when I began eating meat again. I wish I’d done it 10 years earlier, college would have been a very different experience for me."

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2010/09/19/paleo-diet-solution/

[Sitting Coyote]

I have many friends, mostly but not all female, who are vegetarian or vegan.  It is amazing to me what maladies people will endure and convince themselves that they are "healthy".  Finger nails that rot, thin and brittle hair, poor vision, rotting teeth, dry skin, constant tiredness, weakness, brittle bones, cuts that don't heal, I could type for lines and lines and lines...

It's as if they've been convinced that all of the above is a normal state of human being.

I'm glad I eat meat.

[RawZi]

A poignant story both sad and happy...

I do have my own life experience. I was raised vegan by a very well intentioned mother. My staple foods growing up were brown rice, millet, barley, quinoa, soy milk, tofu, sea vegetables, squash, yams, sweet potatoes and fruits. My mother never smoked, drank alcohol and was an avid yogini. At 54, my mother died... she died, she said to me, “I think we made a mistake here…” and she made me promise that I’d try to eat meat. I was very resistant ...I stopped being dizzy and foggy. I used to be pretty spacey, had trouble concentrating and was always dizzy when I stood up. That all stopped pretty instantly. I was 28 when I began eating meat again. I wish I’d done it 10 years earlier, college would have been a very different experience for me."

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2010/09/19/paleo-diet-solution/

    I believe her mom may have died from vegetarianism.  I believe her life may have been saved by animal products.  She must still be pretty spacey though, as she says she was always vegan, then says she ate meat AGAIN!?  I know meat saves life.  I've seen it in from of me.  I've seen it in me too.  I would like to see the explanation.  Was she raised vegan?  Can she remember?  Had she eaten meat time to time?

[RawZi]

It's as if they've been convinced that all of the above is a normal state of human being.

I'm glad I eat meat.

    That's it.  I thought my poor health was good health, or at least acceptable.  I am soooooo glad I found raw meat.  People who can digest cooked meat are lucky. I never could.  Vegetables aren't food though.  They may manage to sustain you for a while, but they are medicine.  If you can eat food, you will likely never need medicine.  That's how I feel.  I eat food now.  Raw meat is food.  Herbs are not.  They're filler, stimulants etc.

[Sully]

That's extremely sad. I got done just talking to a vegetarian on the computer. After while, she took offense and called me a creep. She must have felt insecure about her beliefs.

What makes vegetarians so stubborn? I sought health, which made it easy to me to give up vegetarianism.

For some it goes a bit deeper. Hard core vegetarians, I am glad I never became one.

[RawZi]

What makes vegetarians so stubborn? I sought health, which made it easy to me to give up vegetarianism.

    I think it's a psychological form of arthritis, from eating toxic vegetables and nothing else.

[yuli]

It's a form of what I'd call "Mental Masturbation"

[raw-al]

That's extremely sad. I got done just talking to a vegetarian on the computer. After while, she took offense and called me a creep. She must have felt insecure about her beliefs.

What makes vegetarians so stubborn? I sought health, which made it easy to me to give up vegetarianism.

For some it goes a bit deeper. Hard core vegetarians, I am glad I never became one.

My attitude is that I am not put on this earth to convince people what they should and shouldn't eat.

I used to hang glide etc years ago. Hardly a life giving pursuit.  I remember one day the wife of the local doctor gave me a resounding speech about how reckless I was endangering my life (hang gliding) with a wife and two children to support. Then she left the room and went out for a smoke. 

[raw]

i see my tenants are complete vegan (in NY). they are extremely good looking young professionals. their eyes are usually pale.