Eating carnivores?

[Hannibal]

What do you think about it?
Has anyone of you ever eaten some true carnivorous animals, such as foxes, wolfs, wild cats, mongooses, ferrets, bats, hawks, eagles, falcons, owls, ravens, etc.?
How is the taste of them? Probably worse than herbivores?
Is there any health danger?

[TylerDurden]

There is an urban myth in the RVAF diet world, that supposedly carnivores/omnivores are riddled with parasites but that herbivores are safe.  I seriously doubt this nonsense.

[Josh]

What do you think about trichinosis Tyler?

[TylerDurden]

What do you think about trichinosis Tyler?

The available data indicates that it is incredibly rare indeed to get trichinosis in the developed nations. The few cases one hears about occur in places like Vietnam et al. For the 1st year or so of going rawpalaeo, I used to be incredibly scared of the possibility of getting things like trichinosis, but after months of eating raw wild game constantly, I began to realise that I was in no danger. Now, maybe I may get struck down once with something in 20 years' time, say, but it's so unlikely a possibility, I can ignore it.

[Josh]

They say trich comes from omnivores though. And no offense to the Vietnamese, but they do eat semi domestic dogs.

[laterade]

Remember that chickens will eat lots of worms/bugs if they are available. I don't think They taste good. Then again cows will also eat some bugs.
If I come across some mountain lion I will let you know.
I have though about taking a coyote, but I might as well get them to bring me some rabbit

I think you can eat as many parasites as you want, they will only thrive if your body provides the right conditions for them to thrive.
To me this would seem to be: eating lots of grains, and having a weak immune system due to chemicals, lack of exercise, etc.

[goodsamaritan]

Many fish / sea food are carnivores.

[miles]

The available data indicates that it is incredibly rare indeed to get trichinosis in the developed nations. The few cases one hears about occur in places like Vietnam et al. For the 1st year or so of going rawpalaeo, I used to be incredibly scared of the possibility of getting things like trichinosis, but after months of eating raw wild game constantly, I began to realise that I was in no danger. Now, maybe I may get struck down once with something in 20 years' time, say, but it's so unlikely a possibility, I can ignore it.

wtf..? In developed nations people eat everything cooked, frozen, processed and carefully inspected. It doesn't matter what people in developed nations do, if you do the opposite of virtually everyone.

[ys]

you can probably eat them, the issues is them being predators they are not as populous as prey.

[TylerDurden]

wtf..? In developed nations people eat everything cooked, frozen, processed and carefully inspected. It doesn't matter what people in developed nations do, if you do the opposite of virtually everyone.

  I admit that applies to my own  consumption of raw wild game. However, the raw, grassfed organic meats that RVAFers all more usually buy, come from animals who have been regularly given deworming medicines and the like.

[subfarm]

I've always been curious about carnivorous land animals. I wonder what they would taste like, how they would make me feel. I've always had tremendous respect for predators, I don't know if that would turn me off if I had the opportunity to try one. Oh questions. Funny side note- I've always had an unnecessarily intense trichinosis phobia. I wouldn't handle pork products for years.

[RawZi]

    My son (although he does not eat it) just said yesterday, "Of course prey tastes better (than predators taste), that's why they're prey".

[laterade]

Id like to eat predator heart, oysters, or brains, that would probably kick ass.
Coyotes are free game here 

[subfarm]

actup90- where do you live?
There's a few coyotes loose in my area. Between the hawks and the coyotes, I have one chicken left.
I wish they'd lift the restrictions on hawks here, they've made a big comeback, and are becoming nuisance animals. I would definitely eat some small portion of a hawk. They've eaten so many of my quail and chickens- I feel that I'm owed.

[Sully]

What do you think about it?
Has anyone of you ever eaten some true carnivorous animals, such as foxes, wolfs, wild cats, mongooses, ferrets, bats, hawks, eagles, falcons, owls, ravens, etc.?
How is the taste of them? Probably worse than herbivores?
Is there any health danger?

I guess I imagine carnivores are leaner than herbivores, besides some fish eating mammals. Herbivores are easier to hunt and have more fat to balance the meat. Anything with enough fat would have been sought out by our ancestors no matter the diet of it I think.

[Sully]

Well, I don't know whats easier to hunt carnivore or herbivore, guess it depends. But a deer has more meat and fat than a wolf. So deer is my first choice. Wolf, lion, dogs and cats. They are very lean like us, and have less meat compared to deer, elk, bison etc.

A mountain lion and wolf may be harder to hunt than a herd of bison also. Were opporunist, more meat, more fat, easier hunt. That's the choice!

[RawZi]

Id like to eat predator heart, ...
Coyotes are free game here 

    I bet raw meat eating predator heart meat would be good, maybe better than prey heart.

[laterade]

actup90- where do you live?
There's a few coyotes loose in my area. Between the hawks and the coyotes, I have one chicken left.
I wish they'd lift the restrictions on hawks here, they've made a big comeback, and are becoming nuisance animals. I would definitely eat some small portion of a hawk. They've eaten so many of my quail and chickens- I feel that I'm owed.

I live in arizona. If I am on land where it is cool to shoot, I can take as many coyotes as I want with no conflict.
They are all over the place. Last year a friend and myself were hiking a mountain/hill about ten miles north of mesa, and ran into a pack of 13. They are timid though, If one ever did attack me I would definitely be eating organs. Wouldn't touch the muscle unless I was starving.
In case anyone was wondering... no, those stingy pricks have not even offered to feed me rabbit!!!

I'm sorry to hear that. If you are in a rural area, I would go for it. If you are in the city use a sling shot and practice beforehand and as always... be careful Please tell us how it tastes!
If I was in your position I would have been eating hawk a while ago. You are protecting your property. Bureaucrats can lick my oysters.

[SteakNchop]

There are a good deal of mountain lion where I live. I haven't ever seen one while out running or anything, but if one gets close enough hopefully I'll either get away or kill it and have a nice feast.

[Hannibal]

The available data indicates that it is incredibly rare indeed to get trichinosis in the developed nations.

It's true that it is rare to get it, but:
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=550 - France, trichinella britovi
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19336 - Lithuania
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=3154 - Spain and Sweden, trichinella britovi
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19383 - Canada, among Inuits
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19220 - Senegal (but it's an undeveloped country)
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=18891 - Italy (Verona)

It these cases it was caused by eating a wild boar, warthog, pig and a bear meat. The animals are omnivorous ones.  

[Hannibal]

Many fish / sea food are carnivores.

That very true.
But eating carnivorous fish and marine mammals is considered differently than eating the land carnivores, imo.

[yuli]

Carnivore mammals would be last on my list to eat, especially felines and canines, I feel they are so much like us    but if there was nothing else I would then eat them, however if there is felines and canines that means there is prey animals around  But I'd eat carnivorous reptiles and birds, weird

[Hannibal]

I guess I imagine carnivores are leaner than herbivores, besides some fish eating mammals. Herbivores are easier to hunt and have more fat to balance the meat. Anything with enough fat would have been sought out by our ancestors no matter the diet of it I think.

You're definitely right. I know it.
But AFAIK the wild carnivores eat other carnivores from time to time, esp. when there's a shortage of herbivores.

[PaleoPhil]

There are lots of carnivores and omnivores that are eaten by some people.

Carnivores that are eaten by some people:
Some caniforms (seals and walruses)
Bats (except fruitbats)
Crocodilians, such as alligators
Snakes
Some lizards
Some turtles, including the snapping turtle and most sea turtles
frogs
Sharks
Many bony fish, such as tuna, marlin, salmon, and bass
Some molluscs, such as octopuses and squid, and some gastropods (snails)
Most arachnids, such as spiders and scorpions
Some insects

Physiological carnivores with generally omnivorous diets that are eaten by people:
Some bears

"True" omnivores (both physiologically and diet-wise) that are eaten by some people (see note below):
Pigs/boars
Mice
Rats (yes, even rats, see the National Geographic video, "Rare Foods - Eating Rat" v=KvCjKh1h29Y, at Youtube in which it is shown to literally be a finger-licking-good delicacy)
Chimpanzees
Chickens
Crows (not recommended--"eating crow" has a bad connotation for a reason)
Some lizards, turtles, fish

Note: some scientists do not consider "omnivore to be a scientific term. In order for the concept of 'omnivore' to be regarded as a scientific classification, some clear set of measurable and relevant criteria would need to be considered to differentiate between an 'omnivore' and the other vague but less ambiguous diet categories e.g., faunivore, folivore, scavenger, etc.[13 Michael S. Singer, Elizabeth A. Bernays (2003) UNDERSTANDING OMNIVORY NEEDS A BEHAVIORAL PERSPECTIVE. Ecology: Vol. 84, No. 10, pp. 2532-2537. doi:10.1890/02-0397.]

Much of the list was sourced from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore#List_of_extant_carnivores