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Offline Löwenherz

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German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« on: February 09, 2011, 05:08:47 am »
In several regions of Germany grass fed meat is contaminated with dioxin:

http://www.dradio.de/dlf/sendungen/umwelt/1365296/

A sad story...

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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 05:41:41 am »
Uh oh..

I wonder if any of the neighboring European countries have any of these problems..
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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 05:45:37 am »
I posted about this issue a while back. It appears to be only a problem for those cattle given "feeds" which were chemically-adulterated with dioxins(ie only grainfed cattle, not grassfed cattle at all).
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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 06:03:03 am »
Its from herbicide sprays so it could be grass fed too.Maybe you should try to find an organic grass fed farmer.
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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 06:15:32 am »
Quote from: kurite on February 09, 2011, 06:03:03 am
Its from herbicide sprays so it could be grass fed too.Maybe you should try to find an organic grass fed farmer.
  No, the chemicals are specifically mentioned as having been put in "feeds" given to cattle, and 100 percent grassfed cattle are not given such feeds.
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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 06:38:59 am »
I didn't read the article I just meant in general.
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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 01:55:44 am »
Quote from: TylerDurden on February 09, 2011, 05:45:37 am
I posted about this issue a while back. It appears to be only a problem for those cattle given "feeds" which were chemically-adulterated with dioxins(ie only grainfed cattle, not grassfed cattle at all).

Unfortunately it has nothing to do with the recent dioxin scandal in Germany, as soemone who hasn't read the article could assume. And it has nothing to do with feeds.

Meat from 100% GRASS FED cattle is strongly contaminated in some regions due to industrial pollution of air, water and grasslands.

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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2011, 02:05:37 am »
Even the recent dioxin in feed scandal in Germany wasn't all that bad - that is, the amounts were not harmful per se, they just were over a government-imposed "safe" limit. As for pollution in general, I don't think that general pollution is that big a problem, except in places like Mexico City etc. Plus, RVAFers have better detox mechanisms as they are not constantly having to deal with heat-created toxins in cooked foods, so should be able to deal with minor amounts of pollutants.
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Re: German grass fed meat contaminated with Dioxin
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 02:36:05 am »
And anyway dioxin is not at all destroyed by cooking.
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