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Offline svrn

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« on: April 20, 2012, 01:37:35 am »
Man vs. Wild - Eating Giant Larva

Has anyone tried this? Is it as disgusting as this guy makes it out to be?
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Re: larvae
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 01:56:56 am »
you ask as if anyone can go into a store and get them.

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 02:35:40 am »
I've not eaten one that big, but no, they're not disgusting at all, Bear Grylls is a farking actor, he's not the real deal. He has survivor knowledge, but he's being paid to put on a show, not show you practical shit for the outdoors. Ray Mears and the canadian fella are much better, of course you can filter everything they say through an RVAF point of view, ie no need to cook rabbit or anything else, except things which are toxic without cooking (though for me, that would only make it food in survival situations). Also it shouldn't be human vs. nature, it is human returning to its home in nature. We part of, not apart from nature, no matter how badly we try to delude ourselves.

It is far better to take advice from Jon Young, Tom Brown jr., Tamarack Song and others who've 'gone native' or more accurately reclaimed their native heritage.

As for the grubbies, they are squishy, but being averse to that is learned behaviour. They are quite delicious and will take on the flavor, like anything else, of whatever they've been eating. Palm grubs will taste like palm, wood grubs will taste like wood, earth grubs will taste like tubers or whatever they've  been chawin' on.

That is for white/beige grubs and meal worms.

I've eaten green caterpillars that have been super bitter and made me a bit nauseous. Read up on entomophagy for more info. Also study native cultures, they've got tons of great knowledge on eating bugs, which are usually delicious and great sources of easily digestible fat and protein.

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Re: larvae
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 04:41:10 am »
Also, take care in eating caterpillars in general unless you know something of the species. Many of them take on the toxins of the plants they consume as a protection against predation, and some of those little guys eat some hella toxic plants. Bright colors are often, though not always, a warning sign.
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Re: larvae
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 04:42:33 am »
No, it's only as disgusting as you make it out to be. I commonly eat larvae of different insects as I find them while outdoors. Most often I find various beetle larvae while digging for tubers or roots, or doing some sort of agricultural or horticultural work. They taste fine to me.

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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 05:02:46 am »
Also, take care in eating caterpillars in general unless you know something of the species. Many of them take on the toxins of the plants they consume as a protection against predation, and some of those little guys eat some hella toxic plants. Bright colors are often, though not always, a warning sign.

Yeah, you right Lynn! That was pretty wreckless, I had been eating a lot of grubs that day and got a little carried away! Still, might have been medicinal ! haha

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 05:31:34 am »
Yeah, you right Lynn! That was pretty wreckless, I had been eating a lot of grubs that day and got a little carried away! Still, might have been medicinal ! haha

Hehe! Maybe so. Yeah, grubs are rarely going to be an issue. Caterpillars are a whole other ball of wax.
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Re: larvae
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 03:15:05 am »
You still haven't started your mealworm farm have you? The most sustainable protein source---no chicken can compete...

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 04:02:59 am »
You still haven't started your mealworm farm have you? The most sustainable protein source---no chicken can compete...

No, I haven't. Not yet! Have you got yours up and running now?
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Re: larvae
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 05:38:30 am »
I find crickets easier to raise than mealworms. I feed the crickets and mealworms to the chickens because I love eggs personman. Your right that eating lower down on the food chain is usually more efficient and instead of eating the eggs I could eat the things that provide the protein for the chickens to make the eggs but I'm still trying to get up the courage to eat the bugs myself. I know - just stupid cultural programming. I might have to try some cooked with seasonings first just to get myself over the hump.

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 05:55:38 am »
I find crickets easier to raise than mealworms. I feed the crickets and mealworms to the chickens because I love eggs personman. Your right that eating lower down on the food chain is usually more efficient and instead of eating the eggs I could eat the things that provide the protein for the chickens to make the eggs but I'm still trying to get up the courage to eat the bugs myself. I know - just stupid cultural programming. I might have to try some cooked with seasonings first just to get myself over the hump.

Re: mealworms, I've had them dehydrated and tossed in various seasonings, kind of like popcorn. They were really good that way. I also tried them unseasoned. There wasn't much of a flavor. A little nutty for lack of a better comparison. As far as crickets go, I've had them in other things. I couldn't tell that there was much of a flavor, but the other food could have masked it. If you ever do decide to eat crickets, remove the hind legs. People have had gut obstructions and irritated bowels from the stiff "hairs" on the back legs.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2012, 10:52:35 pm »
Re: mealworms, I've had them dehydrated and tossed in various seasonings, kind of like popcorn. They were really good that way. I also tried them unseasoned. There wasn't much of a flavor. A little nutty for lack of a better comparison. As far as crickets go, I've had them in other things. I couldn't tell that there was much of a flavor, but the other food could have masked it. If you ever do decide to eat crickets, remove the hind legs. People have had gut obstructions and irritated bowels from the stiff "hairs" on the back legs.

If I have to pull off the back legs I doubt I'm going to be eating crickets any time soon. Thanks for the heads up on that.

Here's a hint I discovered with crickets if anyone wants to eat them completely alive and not killed if you refrigerate crickets it puts them into a sort of stasis where they stop moving but aren't dead. That's how I feed them to the chickens.

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 08:27:48 am »
If I have to pull off the back legs I doubt I'm going to be eating crickets any time soon. Thanks for the heads up on that.

Here's a hint I discovered with crickets if anyone wants to eat them completely alive and not killed if you refrigerate crickets it puts them into a sort of stasis where they stop moving but aren't dead. That's how I feed them to the chickens.

You can do the same thing to the meal worms to keep them from squirming if you don't want to feel that. That also makes it more humane when dehydrating them. When they're in the refrigerated stasis, they're dormant. I know some people don't care about that either way, but I'd imagine stress can affect your insects as food the same way it does mammals, birds, fish, amphibians, or reptiles.
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Re: larvae
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 09:26:00 am »
Lynnzard, I've wondered about dehydrating a refrigerator dormant insect at low temperatures - won't that just make it wake up and crawl out of the dehydrator? If not that would surely be a very useful tool at times.

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 09:57:32 am »
Lynnzard, I've wondered about dehydrating a refrigerator dormant insect at low temperatures - won't that just make it wake up and crawl out of the dehydrator? If not that would surely be a very useful tool at times.

I've never done this, so my info is second-hand. Take that for what it's worth. However, I've seen the advice on multiple sites, so here goes. If you actually stick them in the freezer for a couple of hours and then the dehydrator, they don't actually die in the freezer in that amount of time, but they won't wake up before they die during the dehydration. I'd say maybe just experiment with a few so if they do wake up you're not rounding up dozens of beetles in your house over the next few weeks. lol
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 08:08:09 am »
Thanks for that info Lynn. One day when I'm feeling extremely curious and strong-hearted I will try it just to see if it works. But the thing I wonder about is dehydration at the low temperatures that I use. I mean - those seem to me like just putting the things into a warm room. 105 isn't that high a temp for these bugs. I'm going to have to research the temperature that mealworms die at.


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Re: larvae
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2012, 11:46:13 pm »
Hi guys. I haven't got my farm set up yet, it will be a couple months yet. Crickets might be a good idea. Myidea for disposal of bugs is to put them in a sack and drown them, then maybe mash or blend them up into a paste. I have always had a morbid fear of insects(ento[mo]phoby) but now I will bite back(entmophagy).

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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 02:40:50 am »
Hi guys. I haven't got my farm set up yet, it will be a couple months yet. Crickets might be a good idea. Myidea for disposal of bugs is to put them in a sack and drown them, then maybe mash or blend them up into a paste. I have always had a morbid fear of insects(ento[mo]phoby) but now I will bite back(entmophagy).

That would certainly be biting back as it seems like quite a horrible way to die. Putting the crickets in the fridge to put them into stasis is really pretty easy and humane (that is - if you want to be humane).

If you have a morbid fear of insects I would not suggest you farm them. You will have to feed and care for them like you do farm animals.

 

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