Why did you say "of course not"? What would be so surprising about consuming pasteurized dairy given that you said they were eating wheat and cooked foods?
How did they fare on the goat milk? I vaguely recall you saying in the past that they did better, but then found that they improved even more by eliminating all dairy.
Anyway, our small number of paleo rawists is a drop of water in an ocean of 7 billions people eating cooked food.
Yes, one good thing about there being so few raw Paleoists and Paleoists in general is that we haven't yet caused any major food price spikes, AFAIK. It would be nice if it would become socially acceptable without many of our choice foods becoming much more expensive. That may be too much to wish for. In some ways I'm grateful for the vegans, vegetarians and high-dairy consumers who don't eat much of our favorite animal/sea foods, as it makes our WOE more likely to remain doable in the coming years (and a return to older and better farming techniques would also help, as you and Tyler have pointed out), though I don't care for their attempts to ridicule and ostracize us.
They were vegetarians at the time and they consumed dairy.
Fascinating. Did I ask you yet if GCB or other early Instincto people were influenced at all by the vegetarian lebensreform folks, like Arnold Ahret, Nietzsche, Sebastian Kneipp, Louis Kuhne, Rudolf Steiner, Karl Wilhelm Diefenbach, Fidus (Hugo Höppener), Gusto Graeser, Adolf Just, the naturmensch philosophy, Wandervogel, or similar influences?
Yes, that idea came from him. The idea was to consume it freely, as much and as often as our instinct leads us.
OK, so since he got that wrong (according to GCB himself), then maybe he's getting it wrong on raw dairy now--do you see what I mean? Maybe there are some forms of dairy that are OK for some people, the way the Masai and Dinka can consume fermented milk despite not having developed lactase persistance (IIRC).
BTW, I wonder if the tradition of at times mixing of blood into the milk, especially for ceremonies, among the Masai, Celts and other pastoral peoples, was one way of dealing with the excess calcium issue, as the iron in blood binds with the calcium--what do you think?
The tradition of heavy tea drinking among pastoral peoples like Celts, Turkics, Mongols and Tibetans (reportedly, Tibetans traditionally drank at times as much as 30 cups of butter tea a day!) also may have helped deal with the calcium:
"The oxalate intake from the regular daily consumption of black teas is modest when compared to the amounts of soluble oxalate that can be found in common foods. However, oxalate in black teas has the potential to bind to a significant proportion of calcium in the milk, which is commonly consumed with the black teas."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12495262So, yes, there are probably risks with high amounts of dairy consumption, but pastoral peoples may have worked out ways for dealing with these risks, and modest consumption is probably less of a risk. This may help explain why these traditional peoples across the globe don't display high rates of the negative health effects that GCB reported from dairy, and why folks who are unaware of these traditional practices may develop problems and then attribute them to all dairy, instead of modern ways of consuming dairy that don't take into account traditional practices.
When he observed that, it must have been in the 80s. I followed his seminars between 1987 and 1990 and at the time he advised us not to regularly eat mammals’ meat everyday, but to alternate with fish, shellfish, eggs and poultry, so that red meat would be consumed in average about once a week.
Yet he hasn't yet warned about it in his published works, right? Maybe he has witnessed other things that he has yet to publish that are different from what he wrote in his published works up to this point? Given that he changed his mind about muscle meats, maybe some day he'll say that this or that form of dairy is OK for some people?