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I've heard this 'chemtrail' stuff before, but thought it was conspiracy stuff. Bizarre!

Al Gore Publicly Admits To Chemtrails Aerosol Spraying Projects On Ellen TV Show
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raw al, do you ever LOOK at they sky?  chem trails cover the globe.  i first noticed them, and watched them evolve for about 2 years before i thought to look on the internet and see what was happening.  they have been around forever and honestly over the past 5 years the sky has changed so drastically due to the accumulation of their spray, i hardly recognize it anymore.  its scary to me that the quality of sun we are receiving is not authentic, how this distrupts life, we can only fathom. air, soil and water are being polluted...its hard for me not to fixate on them every day they spray (which is most)

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Jessica, it seems you’re talking about condensation trails. I never saw any alleged “chemtrail”, and if they were really existing, which is highly doubtful and implausible, why would they be visible ?
 
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Contrails, or condensation trails, are "streaks of condensed water vapor created in the air by an airplane or rocket at high altitudes."[4] These condensation trails are the result of normal emissions of water vapor from piston engines and jet engines at high altitudes in which the water vapor condenses into a visible cloud. Contrails are formed when hot humid air from the engines mixes with the colder surrounding air. The rate at which contrails dissipate is entirely dependent on weather conditions and altitude. If the atmosphere is near saturation, the contrail may exist for some time. Conversely, if the atmosphere is dry, the contrail will dissipate quickly.[4]
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Cause and effect are distant in time and space in complex systems, while at the same time there’s a tendency to look for causes near the events sought to be explained. Time delays in feedback in systems result in the condition where the long-run response of a system to an action is often different from its short-run response. — Ronald J. Ziegler

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Jessica, it seems you’re talking about condensation trails. I never saw any alleged “chemtrail”, and if they were really existing, which is highly doubtful and implausible, why would they be visible ?
 
They would be visible because their purpose is to reflect the sunlight and therefore it's heat.

I also had a tough time with that Iquana because all aircraft that fly above the freezing level give off moisture which condenses into a fog which people call a condensation trail.

All cars/trucks and everything with an internal combustion engine give off vapour (which is visible when it condenses in below freezing weather) because hydrocarbons have water in them, from the process of distilling, etc. http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_90762 The water is fairly close to the specific gravity of fuel, especially jet fuel, so it takes quite awhile to settle out and thus ends up going through the engine.

If observant, you will see someone, either maintenance or crew, draining some fuel from the bottom of the aircraft tanks, either daily or before flight, because the water eventually settles to the bottom of the tank. If the fuel is old or bad there may be a lot of water.

That is why in some areas of the world, you have to put gas line antifreeze (alcohol which is hygroscopic http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hygroscopic )  in your car fuel so the lines do not freeze up in the winter.

Also  aircraft that fly at high altitude, have to have fuel heaters in the fuel system to prevent the fuel congealing and the water from freezing, or you'd have regular engine flameouts.

Bottom line Jessica is that just because you see a contrail behind a jet doesn't mean it is spraying a chemical trail, any more than your car is doing it on a cool day.

For one thing putting chemicals in jet fuel has the unwanted side effect of coating the engine blades with the substance thus reducing it's available power. This is not a good thing. The aircraft I flew has a 150 hour limit between overhauls (typical overhaul is 3500 or more hours) of running gasoline through the engine because gasoline has lead added and the lead coats the blades. It is considered emergency only fuel.

Soooooo if this stuff is indeed being sprayed into the atmosphere it would have to be from aircraft with some sort of spraying systems that either inject it after the power section of the engine or it is sprayed from behind the wings like a normal crop spraying aircraft.

Since a politician here of repute (whether you like his politics or not) said it then...... ?

Iguana, After 9/11 there was no aircraft allowed to takeoff in North America. Within a short time everyone airborne was ordered to land. Even helicopters in northern Canada. During this period of time until permission to fly again was granted, the average temperatures in North America rose by a perceptible amount because the contrails from aircraft shade the earth (reflect sunlight back to space) particularly in high activity areas. If you find that hard to believe there is websites where you can observe all aircraft airborne in areas that the websites subscribe to the apropos ATC radar output.
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Soooooo if this stuff is indeed being sprayed into the atmosphere it would have to be from aircraft with some sort of spraying systems that either inject it after the power section of the engine or it is sprayed from behind the wings like a normal crop spraying aircraft.
 
It would be known by a lot of people, aircraft engineers, maintenance technicians, pilots, etc. So much that it could hardly be kept secret. I didn’t listen to most of the video because watching videos takes too much time and also because this one seems to be a joke, with people laughing in the background. So what does Al Gore say?   
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Iguana, After 9/11 there was no aircraft allowed to takeoff in North America. Within a short time everyone airborne was ordered to land. Even helicopters in northern Canada. During this period of time until permission to fly again was granted, the average temperatures in North America rose by a perceptible amount because the contrails from aircraft shade the earth (reflect sunlight back to space) particularly in high activity areas. If you find that hard to believe there is websites where you can observe all aircraft airborne in areas that the websites subscribe to the apropos ATC radar output.
Yes, I knew that. It’s even a concern since global warming is slowed down by the contrails of commercial flights and thus if they were stopped, global warming would increase.
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Cause and effect are distant in time and space in complex systems, while at the same time there’s a tendency to look for causes near the events sought to be explained. Time delays in feedback in systems result in the condition where the long-run response of a system to an action is often different from its short-run response. — Ronald J. Ziegler

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It would be known by a lot of people, aircraft engineers, maintenance technicians, pilots, etc. So much that it could hardly be kept secret. I didn’t listen to most of the video because watching videos takes too much time and also because this one seems to be a joke, with people laughing in the background. So what does Al Gore says?   
The story goes that it is being done by military aircraft.

The background of that show is just audience noise.

The thing is that when you read some of the posts for instance that TD puts in the Ron Paul section about the activities of the US military/CIA etc, it makes a lot of things seem more plausible. I am not sure if it is as widespread as some say but I have no problem believing that it has been tried at least experimentally.

Cloud seeding has been around for a lot time. There are companies that do it regularly to bring on rain. http://www.weathermodification.com/

Also a pioneer from back in the 40's Wilhelm Reich figured out a device that would do it from the ground. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tgYIVM_Qm8g#!

People all over the world build modern versions of thee devices. Orgone generators. Whether or not they work I cannot say.
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thank you both, i do know the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail. today is the kind of day i WISH i had a camera, there are no schemtrails out today, and tiny contrails behind the few airplanes i have seen that deminish and disapear as they follow the plane into the distance.  it is about 35 degrees on the ground, i can only imagine the temp at their elevation is lower, so it makes sense to see contrails today due to some of the particles freezing.
on a bright sunny morning a few days ago the sky soon became littered with streaks and all kind of manner of grey haze.  the planes appear soon after the sun is up on the horizon and quickly streak trails that dont dimishs, but spread and smear all over the sky, until the sun is covered with a thick metalic layer.  the quality of light is different.  sometimes if its a windy day the planes will position so that they spray in one part of the sky and the lines travel and converge over the city, over this huge swath of agricultural land i live in, and block out the sun.  all winter when the clouds would break you could see streaks and lines from the planes trying to seal up the holes in the clouds.  the way the weather works, i live in Idaho, a lot of mosture from the coast comes here, gets hit by winds from the north and sent southward to snow all over the rocky mountains, its imperative that that moisture is captured and those clouds are kept cool to precipitate.

you can tell chemtrails by how they fall out in the sky.  behind a plane will usually be two large strakes of smarm(whatever the chemicals are) that soon billow down towards the earth, like a tiny mamatus cloud formed in perfect line, then they will spread out. you can also observe that when a layer of chemtrail cloud has been put down and a plane spraying more flys above it at the right angle to the sun, a perfect straight line of shadow will form on that lower layer of cloud demonstrating the dimming affect.

5 years ago i lived in colorado springs, where i grew up,  this is the home of the united states air force academy, many air bases and NORAD.  i have observed them perfecting technique, from where and how they spray, to perhaps the chemicals they use(i say this because really their capacity to dim the sun is so much greater), in my home town. i have also traveled and moved quite a bit in that time and have noticed it from southern arizona all the way up to northern idaho.   keep in mind i have also lived in agriculturally dense portions of the country.  if i get around to googling it there is a private jet company for hire out of north dakota that specializes in climate and percipitation control for agricultural needs. 

its a real thing, i did not look it up on the internet and then go out and watch the sky.  i watched the sky, observed something thoroughly and with a very critical eye(i did NOT want to believe it was real, it breaks my heart) for years before looking it up online and finding evidence from around the world.  i can hardly look at photos on the web and not notice chemtrails in the background. 
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Ben Livingston on Alex Jones Tv 1/3:Weaponized Weather

an interview with someone who flew the aircraft that did cloud seeding during the vietnam war.

do not take this post as an endorsement of infowars.
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