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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #125 on: July 27, 2015, 10:55:26 am »
Tell it on the mountain,

Its absurd how the farcical parade of presidential pretenders has been able to go on unchallenged in the many years since Kennedy was taken out. Pirates have taken the White House! Skull & Bones Pirates out right stole the strong hold of the republic, inserting their own agents into the highest office,and are using the power entrusted by the American People for nefarious purposes, while the people get to chose between preselected stooges who serve only as a figurehead for the power behind the throne.

The people are seeking a real champion, a legitimate chieftain, that's why this particular debate is so popular.... now that more and more people are being connected through the Web the whole world will be watching, and Trump will be able to rival the mainstream propaganda with a Bully Pulpit, the likes of which has not been seen since Huey Long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avGl7k4OGJY
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #126 on: July 27, 2015, 11:29:18 am »
Who do you think is best for 2016, CK?


Bernie Sanders. Hillary is already sold to the big banks, etc..just like Obama. We could probably limp along for 4 or 8 years with her, but Bernie is a lot closer to being an actual decent person.

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Could be interesting to have Bernie Sanders represent the Democrats vs Donald Trump representing the Republicans.

Better than what the powers that be want right now: Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush (which continues the dynasty either way, 2 sides of the same coin)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkkNzBzBsY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkkNzBzBsY
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #128 on: July 27, 2015, 01:04:10 pm »
4 bankruptcies in 25 years is not a good businessman.  That's a person who takes bad risks and makes other people pay for his mistakes. I'm going to start deleting your political posts if you can't stop insulting people and trolling. You know you're out of line. Don't force me to reign you in, please.

4 out of how many businesses he's started is hardly significant, and he did what any successful businessman would do.

Mostly what you've done in this thread is fling ad hominem insults at Donald Trump. Seems more like you're upset because you have no substance in this debate. The passive aggressive posts coupled with your pretended moral high ground and threats to silence me with your mod power only validate this.

(This speaker says Donald Trump will open up an investigation on Obama's birth certificate and convict everyone involved.  2 ways "they" can prevent a Donald Trump presidency... just listen to it.)

Let's all take a moment to remember that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #129 on: July 27, 2015, 01:08:17 pm »
Here's the video of Trump's speech in Iowa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqQ89J1D45o

Remember how he asked the veterans to file their complaints about the Veterans Administration?

In this speech he shows off a stack of hundreds of documents they received in the first day.

Trump also rips into Scott Walker and Jeb Bush for supporting Common Core.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #130 on: July 27, 2015, 03:27:56 pm »
I suggest people ask trump basic questions to see if he has even a clue. Many US candidates have not the slightest clue where Iraq or Iran are on the map, and yet go on paranoidally about the so-called "need" to bomb Iran etc.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #131 on: July 27, 2015, 09:54:06 pm »
In pretty much all of the other forums I participate in, political and religious discussions are prohibited. The reason is that they're always divisive, lead to bitter discussions and distract people from the real focus of the forums. It seems to me that politics has done that here too. The vast majority of posts on this forum these days are political in nature, or religious, or homophobic, or racist, etc. Folks hardly even talk about raw paleo nutrition anymore...

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #132 on: July 27, 2015, 10:06:42 pm »
Good points, Eric.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #133 on: July 27, 2015, 10:32:50 pm »
In pretty much all of the other forums I participate in, political and religious discussions are prohibited. The reason is that they're always divisive, lead to bitter discussions and distract people from the real focus of the forums. It seems to me that politics has done that here too. The vast majority of posts on this forum these days are political in nature, or religious, or homophobic, or racist, etc. Folks hardly even talk about raw paleo nutrition anymore...

Again, we're in the off-topic section. It seems more like you have a personal problem with religion, politics, homophobia, or racism. All four of those subjects are important realities regardless of how tense they are, and there are those of us who are comfortable taking on these issues. Start a thread on nutrition, browse old threads, make posts, start some discussion elsewhere and I'm sure there are people who would join you.

I suggest people ask trump basic questions to see if he has even a clue. Many US candidates have not the slightest clue where Iraq or Iran are on the map, and yet go on paranoidally about the so-called "need" to bomb Iran etc.

I'm curious what you'd ask. It's harsh and probably unnecessary, but when people in Iran are screaming "Death to America" it's hardly paranoia.

If you'd like to learn more about him and his perspective I'd encourage you to read The Art of the Deal or listen in the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVno4N_Bsc&t=624

Chapter one starts at 10:05
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #134 on: July 27, 2015, 10:59:13 pm »
I was pointing out that it was laughable  for a politician to scream rabidly  about nuking Iran when they do not even have a clue where it is on a map, or even have a clue about its history, recent or otherwise. As far as starting wars is concerned, Iran has not done so for a very long time historically, whereas the US and Israel have done so repeatedly in the last 60+ years, so there is no rational reason for being Iran-phobic.

As regards politics/religion, I have been on other forums where politics and religion forums have been omnipresent. Admittedly, most such forums tended to be boring, tedious ones where virtually all members were of the same political mindset. In the case of  RVAF diet forums, you cannot simply wipe out all political discussions. For example, the raw dairy movement is big in the US and to a lesser extent elsewhere, with RVAF forums often  indulging in petitions to US State Governors etc. over the issue. There have been other attempts to wipe out healthy  food sources by governments. For example, Argentina's  past Socialist governments have almost wiped out the formerly thriving grassfed meat industry  in that country, and that is just one among many such cases. I pity any Venezuelan RVAFers at this moment etc.

Religion is a lesser issue, here. However, I think it is reasonable to include it. For example,  someone might state that they are a Buddhist or whatever and ask how they can fit their religious dietary doctrine within  RVAF diet guidelines.

We probably have been discussing non-dietary stuff more than before. Unsurprising, in a way, since most RVAF diet topics have already been covered so that many people just have to search rawpaleoforum in order to find the thread with the right dietary information in it  they need. As regards laws, those are best for totalitarian societies. I believe in a genuine diversity of opinions. I would not personally even mind conversing with a Muslim RVAF diet follower  who was a supporter of IS, if such existed.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #135 on: July 27, 2015, 10:59:33 pm »
I see the formation of world governance under secretive global political organizations as a paramount threat to the food sovereignty of paleos all over the world. Though there may be no direct way the political banter exchanged in a nutritional forum to effect change upon out of control governmental systems and corporations that are working to control every aspect of human life, through a global political debate among paleo dieters.... those who participate can come to certain realizations which would benefit the wider community of people who have vested interest in maintaining their sovereignty and freedom.

There is something inherently Paleo about members of a tribe discussing politics, and when a general consensus is reached that the current chieftains are inept and the hierarchy no longer serves the health and well being of the tribes people, then there is a calling among the ranks to challenge authority. Now we can debate how effective our efforts could possibly be, as members of a back water cyber tribe, to effect change on the grand stage which seems outside of our direct influence, nevertheless here we are, the descendants of monkeys, who after taking over the earth, were not satisfied, and now continue the conquest of our own collective minds through the jungle of the electronic media matrix.

Its our nature to fall into such pathological debates, many of us have become hopeless contrarians, likely due to overbearing sociological conditioning put upon us by impersonal forces outside of human control. Most of us here are capable of understanding that there is likely no hope of our Paleo Ideals reaching the mainstream and all of us would be better to spend our energy becoming our own sovereign, drop off the grid, and go tribal, instead of hoping for political change.

It seems many of us are hopelessly hooked upon the notion that we need to participate in the development of a greater humanity. Which is not a bad thing.... its only that the avenues for our participation have been so limited by the archaic established structure....that many may feel like there is no legitimate recourse, except to howl madly into the digital darkness
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #136 on: July 28, 2015, 12:07:30 am »
i can see from the responses in this thread that the democrat leaning choose Bernie Sanders.

The republican leaning choose Donald Trump.

Maybe someone needs to start a Bernie Sanders thread.

I dont read anyone here pushing Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA - has Jewish Allies
« Reply #137 on: July 29, 2015, 07:51:07 am »
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1047

Trump’s Got A Trump Card
July 27, 2015

So both Donald Trump's daughter and son married into Jewish rich families. And Trump says he admires Netanyahu.  Maybe trump does have a shot.  Watch the video.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jinjRYNuVyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jinjRYNuVyo
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #138 on: July 29, 2015, 10:53:12 am »
Netanyahu doesn't vote in the U.S.. And there are only a few million Jews in the U.S., anyway. Being pro-Israel and/or pro-Jew is not anything special among presidential candidates.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #139 on: July 29, 2015, 11:10:40 am »
Netanyahu doesn't vote in the U.S.. And there are only a few million Jews in the U.S., anyway. Being pro-Israel and/or pro-Jew is not anything special among presidential candidates.
RP was practically the only candidate in the past who was not pro-Israel and he failed completely as a direct result. GS does have a point.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #140 on: July 29, 2015, 11:32:31 am »
Netanyahu doesn't vote in the U.S.. And there are only a few million Jews in the U.S., anyway. Being pro-Israel and/or pro-Jew is not anything special among presidential candidates.

Jews own most of the US media.  And the all important banking industry.  The most powerful lobby groups in the USA are Jewish.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #141 on: July 29, 2015, 11:51:03 am »
Its not necessarily the Jews as much as it is the Zionist power elite that dominate the worlds media and financial institutions.... Trump knows this and is attempting to make alliances....Which is BWT a very wise move...

Look at Joe Biden sucking up, its kind of pathetic, but thats politics, and it looks like trump is learning the Game rather quickly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo-UXZ-1ups
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #142 on: July 29, 2015, 11:53:23 am »
RP was practically the only candidate in the past who was not pro-Israel and he failed completely as a direct result. GS does have a point.

Ron Paul failed for many reasons. Being anti-Israel is only one of them. Being anti-military is another. But he's far too much of a racist to ever be a viable candidate or a great President, anyway. There's some deeply, deeply disturbing racist stuff in his newsletter a few years ago. Stuff that even most Republicans would be disturbed by.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #143 on: July 29, 2015, 11:58:30 am »
Jews own most of the US media.  And the all important banking industry.  The most powerful lobby groups in the USA are Jewish.

The Jews don't run the world. In fact, the richest and most powerful Jews are not especially religious at all. There's no conspiracy. You're embarrassing with all this ignorant bigoted nonsense. Please stop. At least let me keep believing that I'm not associated with the kind of people that believe this stuff.

I don't think I can take much more. I think I'm going to at least resign as moderator if this keeps up, and maybe just stop posting. This is the kind of stuff the Germans were saying while the Nazis were cracking down on the Jews, etc..

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #144 on: July 29, 2015, 12:01:19 pm »
You want a REAL conspiracy? Try MK-ULTRA, or the military-industrial complex's  deliberate worsening of the Cold War. That shit is public record, and indisputable. Stop embarrassing me.

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« Reply #145 on: July 29, 2015, 12:01:54 pm »
Stop embarrassing me.

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« Reply #146 on: July 29, 2015, 12:34:55 pm »
We are all victims of lies perpetrated by those who control our history. There are many uncomfortable truths that Americans are not taught, and so many of us as a result have a skewed sense of world events.

The Zionist Banking elite work with the American Military Industrial complex to covertly instigate and fund virtually every major conflict for the Past 100 years. American wealth robbed from the people and was given to Hitler during the great depression by the same entities which Killed kennedy and orchestrated 911.

To this day no one, not even Ron Paul ever dared to stand on the floor of congress and decry the government for its complicacy in crimes against humanity... sure they pussyfoot around the issue, but there is no one of the political world stage that represents the kind of truth that I hunger for. "so we keep waiting on the world to change"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
I just watched this recently and it is the motherload of all conspiracy documentaries, a lot of information which was new to me... Such as the Kennedy corpse surgical augmentation...some very sick shit!...... I agree with conclusion at the very end...Which is that there is an intrinsic part of the American persona, along with the subjects of other empires throughout history, which is criminal to the core, and most people on some level is complete with the atrocities that have been perpetrated by the power behind the thrown and allow themselves to be willfully ignorant, in exchange for bread and circuses.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #147 on: July 29, 2015, 12:43:28 pm »
Ron Paul failed for many reasons. Being anti-Israel is only one of them. Being anti-military is another. But he's far too much of a racist to ever be a viable candidate or a great President, anyway. There's some deeply, deeply disturbing racist stuff in his newsletter a few years ago. Stuff that even most Republicans would be disturbed by.
That is absolutely untrue. RP already pointed out that that stuff was spouted by someone else, not him. Besides, what I really  like about him is that he promotes ideas that, amusingly, ultimately benefit almost everyone, whether they be white or black or whatever. More to the point, RP states things that are sane. Contrast this with the rabid, warmongering responses made by other Republican candidates in previous elections about bombing Iran, just in order to get backing from the Jewish Lobby.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #148 on: July 29, 2015, 12:55:11 pm »
The Jews don't run the world. In fact, the richest and most powerful Jews are not especially religious at all.
GS was not actually stating that Jews run the world. Also, the 2nd sentence  is a bit odd  and somewhat  irrelevant, rather. What on earth  has religion got do with the Jewish people? Most Jews, these days,  are not even religious. Besides, Halakhic law states that someone is a Jew if they have a Jewish mother and the Israeli State even allows one to become a citizen there if one has just one Jewish grandparent, so, clearly, being Jewish is an ethnic issue not a religious one.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #149 on: July 29, 2015, 01:10:25 pm »
No need to be hot headed, CK.

This is just a pool of ideas and discoveries, not a pissing contest.

Trump is an interesting character and now more so that he does have Jewish connections via the marriages of his 2 children.  Smart guy.
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