How About Bernie Sanders for President

[laterade]

I do understand strength and it is vastly overrated.

Overrated? Rating has nothing to do with it. If you're weak you get conquered, just like Sanders was in the video above.

If he allows a few negresses to do this then we can just imagine how weak he would be negotiating with someone like Putin.

The best way I can describe it is that white liberals and especially politicians are per say "walking on broken glass" whenever race issues are presenented in front of them. A slip up could be career breaking. Not just blacks but white liberals would be likely up in arms over his perceived racism. I mean young white liberals basically assume you're racist if you are a white male.

This is the retarded nonsense I'm pointing out. In politics, negros and mestizos do nothing other than grab power for their own.

White liberals, and cuckservatives, are the only ones who give up ground. Doing things to be perceived as nice, generous, and non-racist.

In return these other ethnic groups only want more and more, and appreciate nothing. Entitled savages harping on non-existent oppression.

[laterade]

Maybe since I come from a different country, this RACIST issue is not relevant to me.  All I saw was FAT UNRULY YOUNG WOMEN who were uninvited and disgustingly disrespectful.  I do not give a shit what race they were... they were still FAT UNRULY DISRESPECTFUL and needed to be dutifully thrown out by the bouncers / bodyguards / security. 

This man is a possible president and should be well protected.  No ifs and buts.  If his security personnel were incompetent, they should be replaced.  What if the next disruptor was an assassin?

I agree. It doesn't matter who they are, they shouldn't be given a pass to chimpout like this. The point is they are allowed to run rampant because they are a protected group that uses the word racism to incapacitate the weaker whites. Race is very much an important factor in this happening.

[goodsamaritan]

I agree. It doesn't matter who they are, they shouldn't be given a pass to chimpout like this. The point is they are allowed to run rampant because they are a protected group that uses the word racism to incapacitate the weaker whites. Race is very much an important factor in this happening.

If RACE incapacitates security, then the next assassins will come from RACES that are glorified.

[laterade]

If RACE incapacitates security, then the next assassins will come from RACES that are glorified.

Not all security, imagine this happening at an event held by Trump. They wouldn't get past the crowd.

[goodsamaritan]

Lets not post about Trump here. Too much emotion.  I had dinner with a childhood friend lady living in Utah and she says talk of Trump somehow gets her emotional as well.

I wonder if Americans are waking up passionate to be involved in politics. 

[cherimoya_kid]

Rogue and CK don't understand strength. They live in a fantasy world created by people like Bernie Sanders.

Did Adolf Hitler understand strength?

[TylerDurden]

Socialist my ass,
his version of socialistic healthcare is a farce. The Obamacare he supports is nothing less than a fascist takeover, giving record amounts of public resources to private interest.

*Sigh*. Fascism is simply another form of Socialism. Why do you think the Germans called their version "National Socialism"? In other words, fascism is leftwing, not rightwing.

[TylerDurden]

"myths of black victimization". Who do you get your information from, Fox News? 60% of American male prison inmates are black. The U.S. has 25% of the worlds incarcerated people. There are a million black people in jail in this country. The truth of the matter is that slavery never truly ended in the "land of the free".

This is rubbish. The simple fact is that blacks and hispanics in the US commit far more crime than whites do, so, inevitably, they also have much higher incarceration-rates in tandem.

[sabertooth]

*Sigh*. Fascism is simply another form of Socialism. Why do you think the Germans called their version "National Socialism"? In other words, fascism is leftwing, not right wing.

I dont see how sighing will help in this situation, and any oversimplification is not possible with this subject....we need a new way of thinking and a new language to explain the emerging phenomenon in our current situation, the old propaganda of {socialism vs capitalism} is no longer relevant in today's world.... all previous forms of government and economic systems controlling allocation of resources are clearly inadequate to address what is going on in the world today.

 I use words like socialism and fascism clumsily because we have yet to evolve our political language past such limited and truncated terminology, but in my own mind as I can see it, the socialistic Ideal resembles that of Swedish socialism, where the people are truly cared for by a benevolent state which works with the people hand in hand.... while American fascism is where the government, under the false pretense of helping the people, uses socialism as a cover, to grab wealth and power from the people, in order to dole it out to a corporatocracy.

These fundamentals difference between the socialist Ideal, and the reality of applied socialism in America is what dunderheads like Sanders do not seem to be able to understand.

[RogueFarmer]

This is rubbish. The simple fact is that blacks and hispanics in the US commit far more crime than whites do, so, inevitably, they also have much higher incarceration-rates in tandem.

No you are wrong. White people do pretty much just as much illegal drugs as minorities, they are just far less likely to be apprehended and even if they are they are less likely to be incarcerated. Most of the people in jail in U.S. are there for drug charges which shouldn't even be illegal anyways.

And by the way the scary criminal types I have known of and experienced throughout my entire life, almost all of them were white and I grew up in a "scary" black neighborhood.

[TylerDurden]

The Swedish Ideal is not benevolent socialism. At best, one could spuriously claim that the leftwing anarchist Catalonians were an expression of benevolent Socialism, but even that has inherent problems.The Swedish Ideal is full of problems. Look at the absurd "Nordic model" practised by Sweden and others which has made life actually worse for prostitutes, overall.

http://www.libsdebunked.com/socialism/scandinavian-socialism-argument/

Basically, socialism involves equality which cannot exist in Nature except in death, which means that the overachievers get heavily penalised while the mediocrities always get the most benefits for obvious reasons as they are much closer to the  norm average.

[sabertooth]

One cant just speak in generality to denounce a system by which millions of people seem to be living by a decent standard, sure one can argue swedish socialism isn't shangri la, but compared to the poorest parts of Republican controlled Kentucky where my people come from its pretty damn close.

The other part of my point, we may agree on is that there are other factors involved which would prevent the benefits of swedish socialism from being implemented into the juggernaut of the American empire. Politicians who wish to emulate to the wealthy socialist progressive nations of Europe ( like bernie sanders) fail to clearly see the dynamic forces embedded into the structure of the empire which would prevent egalitarianism from emerging through the traditional democratic process.

[TylerDurden]

No you are wrong. White people do pretty much just as much illegal drugs as minorities, they are just far less likely to be apprehended and even if they are they are less likely to be incarcerated. Most of the people in jail in U.S. are there for drug charges which shouldn't even be illegal anyways.
And by the way the scary criminal types I have known of and experienced throughout my entire life, almost all of them were white and I grew up in a "scary" black neighborhood.

It is not just that you are dead wrong but there is also a wealth of evidence from the FBI and elsewhere on this whole issue which shows that blacks are FAR more likely to commit crime than whites:-
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime/19439

It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white.

So, while one might hope/expect that blacks commit only 13% of homicides in line with their being 13% of the US population, they actually murder at 4(!) times that rate. Case closed.

I should mention that, in the UK, the nonwhite areas are notorious for being high-crime-rate-areas. Similiarly, in Austria, the more repellent violent crimes tend overwhelmingly to be committed mainly by Turks or Bosnian  Serbs or other Muslims, with some other Eastern European populations forming a lesser minority of criminals.

I am not countering the notion  that negroes may even be crime-free in some  other areas of the world  but one ought to at least be honest about the current statistics in the US.

[goodsamaritan]

oh come on men, one cannot say one is wrong or right here because all of us have different experiences, live in different countries and define those political words in different ways.

I would defer the merits of this discussion in this thread alone to the american members here.  this is their presidential election, their country, their ideals.

Us non americans are just curious by standers learning and observing how the americans go about their 2016 elections, and it seems it will be more exciting than the boring and fixed 2012 and 2008.

[laterade]

These are emotional times, as they should be, people are furious. We have been getting screwed.

If you're not going to allow Trump to be covered then you're wasting your time talking about this election.

You might as well lock down this thread because it's not going to be any prettier. Sanders is anti-American.

[goodsamaritan]

I agree, we are wasting our time and energy on a very emotional American election so I will be locking this topic now.

Let's all move on.