I explained that I invited Dorothy (and one other chap who posted here a few times, IIRC) here from the forum that SkinnyDevil invited me to, so she was not remotely a troll or ship-sinker and in her private messages to me she was surprised at the hostile reaction she received here after I had pointed out to her that we have pro-dairy subforums, and thus her homemade raw quark and kefir should be acceptable here. It was quite clear in her private communications that she didn't intend any harm whatsoever and was actually trying to be a helpful, constructive contributor. I guess I was wrong about the acceptability here of raw dairy and am to blame for giving her a false impression.
I figured Tyler would argue a bit with her and I think I warned her about that, but didn't expect nearly the negativity that arose. I think my assurances inadvertently inspired her to discuss dairy here more than she had at the vegan forum.
I actually personally benefited from some info she shared about blood oxygen, which she reported had helped her and her mother, and I learned a few other interesting things from her, despite disagreeing with her on much (after all, I think I was a dairy-free carnivore at the time
). So raw quark was not quite the end-all and be-all for her and I've found that I can learn and benefit from people who have different opinions and approaches than my own.
Another fellow (whose handle I unfortunately forget) I invited here from Skinny's forum also did not seem to feel welcome. He didn't do dairy, but he was big on fruits and other plant foods. He occasionally ate raw fish and eggs, IIRC, and he was well liked by many at Skinny's forum, so I figured he would be another good and welcome addition, but he returned to the other forum. I suspect he was scared off by the response to Dorothy, whom he got along well with at the other forum, and some of the anti-carb and anti-plant rhetoric.
Re: ATCP, I already accepted the judgement on him and consider that case closed unless someone care's to come to his defense with new info. I trust your judgment, Eveheart, and don't have inside info to the contrary, so I doubt such info will be forthcoming.
Speaking of SkinnyDevil. Where is he and how is he doing these days? Seems like if he is going to be the model example of this forum's embrace of active plant-positive members that someone should be able to fill me in on this or at least point me to some of his recent comments. I don't read all the threads, so maybe I missed them. It was nice of him to have invited me to that vegan forum despite my carnivory at the time (needless to say, I was quite surprised
).
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Re: the forum topic, I can't stand the sound of Michael Greger's voice, so I wasn't able to listen to him for long.
I have heard from others that he's pretty smart, though, so maybe some day I'll check out some of his written stuff.
