Sea-breeze ain't what it used to be

[TylerDurden]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3327622/Why-sea-breeze-not-good-anymore-Particle-pollution-shipping-far-worse-thought.html

One of the problems with going rawpalaeo was that one still had to endure air-pollution in the cities and the pollution contains certain toxic compounds which are also found in cooked foods. Going to the sea or empty countryside was an option but, increasingly, we won't be able to escape at all.

[cherimoya_kid]

Hopefully ships will be able to go to solar and maybe hydrogen in the next 20 years or so.

[goodsamaritan]

Luckily the Pacific Ocean side of our archipelago is still clean.  I just spent a weekend there.  Next weekend again.

[cherimoya_kid]

Luckily the Pacific Ocean side of our archipelago is still clean.  I just spent a weekend there.  Next weekend again.

Nice. It's been almost 3 years since my last tropical vacation. LOL

[cherimoya_kid]

At least electric cars and solar power will reduce pollution in cities. In 10 years or so electrics are going to be all that's even sold in most countries.

[sabertooth]

I will take an ocean breeze with the occasional passing ship over life in the mega city any day.

 London was terrible to me, the smell was strong with exhaust and sewer gas, Paris was not much better.... I was impressed by the air of the Netherlands, there was so many green spaces and I spent 5 days riding on bike paths and it was very refreshing.

By Far Nice France had the best air for any large city, the clear water and ocean breeze seemed so pure...of course there were very few passing ships, mostly sail boats with the occasional curse ship passing by.

At least electric cars and solar power will reduce pollution in cities. In 10 years or so electrics are going to be all that's even sold in most countries.

Jack Kruse claims that electric cars give of huge amounts of emf and may not be as good for human health as being sold to us?

[sabertooth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpxhlX4Ga0

Air cars are the way of the future, its truly a crime that this technology is being suppressed.

[goodsamaritan]

Jack Kruse claims that electric cars give of huge amounts of emf and may not be as good for human health as being sold to us?

Maybe a custom Faraday cage for the driver and passengers will do the trick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpxhlX4Ga0

Air cars are the way of the future, its truly a crime that this technology is being suppressed.

Wow, any news where this tech is now?

[Iguana]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpxhlX4Ga0

Air cars are the way of the future, its truly a crime that this technology is being suppressed.

It's not suppressed! It's just not viable, as this poster truthfully wrote in the comments below the video:

Cliff Yablonski
For the past 10 years  this company has announced every few months  to the media that they are going into production but they never do, it's just a scam to sucker in new investors.
Reason is it sucks, only has a 5 mile range and top speed of 20 mph

Compressed air is a totally inefficient way to store energy: most is lost in heat.

[cherimoya_kid]

If electric cars are so awful in terms of EMF, why aren't there studies showing that people who work around very strong EMF have a lot more health problems than other people?

[JeuneKoq]

Jack Kruse claims that electric cars give of huge amounts of emf and may not be as good for human health as being sold to us?

Funny, I felt this kind of vibe too. At one point I wanted to buy a scooter, and I was thinking about getting an electric one, but I had this impression that it would somehow harm me, like siting on a giant cellphone. So I got a gas car at 18 instead

I hope they'll find a more "organic", yet clean way to power our cars.

[cherimoya_kid]

There are no real harms from the kinds of fields in an electric car. If there were, union workers in electrical power stations would demand all kinds of protections. Unions are concerned about their workers' health, because workers are concerned about their own health, and unions are run by workers.

[JeuneKoq]

Well, phone companies are now required to indicate the SAR (Specific absorption rate) of their products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_absorption_rate

And there's the case of people who cannot tolerate most kind of EMFs, and must live in the middle of nowhere in houses covered with special anti-EMF fabric.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity

[cherimoya_kid]

Cell phones CAN cause cancer, through MICROWAVE RADIATION.  That has nothing to do with EMF. EMFs are literally magnetic fields. There are 2 kinds, moving fields and static fields. The moving fields can hurt you if they're strong enough and close enough, but the strength required for harm is hundreds of times stronger than what an electric car would ever expose you to.

[TylerDurden]

We already have some members here who are hyper-sensitive to EMF radiation. I know I used to laugh at this stuff but so many others complain about it......

[cherimoya_kid]

And those people who are sensitive to magnetic fields are extremely rare, and would probably be healed by a raw paleo diet.

[Iguana]

I hope they'll find a more "organic", yet clean way to power our cars.

The most ecofriendly energy source for transportation is oil from conventional fields (which are getting depleted). Biofuels cause much more environmental damages, an hydrogen network is an Utopia and would be very inefficient, electricity must be generated somehow, batteries are all but ecological and even wind turbines need fossil fuels to be made and maintained. 

[cherimoya_kid]

We already have some members here who are hyper-sensitive to EMF radiation. I know I used to laugh at this stuff but so many others complain about it......

They are imagining it. People who actually get sick from these fields are EXTREMELY rare, and don't just "feel bad". They have specific symptoms. The people  here who are "sensitive" to EMFs didn't become that way until they read some guru's preaching about it.

[cherimoya_kid]

The most ecofriendly energy source for transportation is oil from conventional fields (which are getting depleted). Biofuels cause much more environmental damages, an hydrogen network is an Utopia and would be very inefficient, electricity must be generated somehow, batteries are all but ecological and even wind turbines need fossil fuels to be made and maintained. 

Huh? At least you don't have to breathe battery exhaust. LOL and they can be recycled. Graphene batteries are going to be available in less than 10 years, and they will be very eco-friendly.

[Iguana]

Cell phones CAN cause cancer, through MICROWAVE RADIATION.  That has nothing to do with EMF. EMFs are literally magnetic fields. There are 2 kinds, moving fields and static fields. The moving fields can hurt you if they're strong enough and close enough, but the strength required for harm is hundreds of times stronger than what an electric car would ever expose you to.

You're right. The effect of EMFs on some people is most likely psychosomatic.

Huh? At least you don't have to breathe battery exhaust. LOL and they can be recycled. Graphene batteries are going to be available in less than 10 years, and they will be very eco-friendly.

Perhaps...we'll see, but anyway it takes at least 15 years to renew the world's one billion vehicles and this hasn't even started, except on a neglectful scale.

[TylerDurden]

Hmm, some of us RPDers have been long-term on an RPD diet yet still had EMF symptoms.......

[cherimoya_kid]

You're right. The effect of EMFs on some people is most likely psychosomatic. Perhaps...we'll see, but anyway, it takes at least 15 years to renew the world's one billion vehicles and this hasn't even started, except on a neglectful scale.

That's 15 years for total replacement at current levels of technology. We might be able to do it in as little as 10 years once they really start production, as automation continues to get better. And even if it takes 15 years, after 10 years, 2/3 of all vehicles would be electric. Combine that with the fact that solar cells are increasing in efficiency and decreasing in price tremendously every year, and we'll probably be down to 1/10 the current emissions levels in another 12 years or so.

[cherimoya_kid]

Hmm, some of us RPDers have been long-term on an RPD diet yet still had EMF symptoms.......

Probably Psychosomatic, like Iguana says. I'm going to need more proof. What symptoms, and who?

[TylerDurden]

Probably Psychosomatic, like Iguana says. I'm going to need more proof. What symptoms, and who?

I can't recall, but didn't raw-al complain once, among 5 others?

[cherimoya_kid]

I can't recall, but didn't raw-al complain once, among 5 others?

Psychosomatic.