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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2010, 01:40:27 am »
Thanks a lot! I've added it to my favourites.
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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2010, 02:05:17 am »
@Haai: Like Iguana I order Durian and many other delicious fruits, nuts and meat from Orkos or from Tropenkost

I prefer Orkos because they have more variety.

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« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2010, 10:13:24 am »
Hey i am eating durian now for the first time!!!!!!!

IT IS GREAT!

THE TASTE IS FAMILIAR FOR SOME REASON

DELICIOUS

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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2010, 10:18:48 am »
What is the taste like?
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« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2010, 10:20:28 am »
that was quick...


THE TASTE IS FAMILIAR FOR SOME REASON

yeah sorta like bananas with a little bit of chicken fat and lemon meringue.  :)

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« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2010, 10:37:24 am »
What is the taste like?
I swear I think my mom fed it to me somehow. it is very very familiar taste, We used to get mexican popsicles all the time, that might of had a flavor like it. i definitely recognize the taste


burnt flavor (like burnt caramelized onions somwhat) not a stronge onion taste though (just like caramelized onions fried in som oil), very very sweet, creamy texture, a hint of banana, but mainly caramelized onions

so the burnt flavor, and very very sweet, creamy texture, like ice cream when partially frozen




it was frozen and thawed,

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« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2010, 10:42:45 am »
the first bite I was like.. People don't like this?

Andrew off of bizarre foods must be really used to junk food, to not like something with such a unique flavor and apreciate it.

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« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2010, 10:47:01 am »
I got it at an asian store. they had whole durian and forzen.

My mom always took me to the hispanic store elrey. Something I had from that store taste just like durian. Maybe some kind of candy or popsicle flavored with durian.

Its oddly familiar, I like it.

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« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2010, 10:49:15 am »
i got some dragon fruit too for the fisrt time

the asian stores here are amazing
http://www.bijlmakers.com/fruits/dragonfruit.htm

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« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2010, 10:58:39 am »
yeah, i tthink it was a popsicle i had when i was younger, haha funny, i guess i did have durian before


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« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2010, 11:01:48 am »
ahhhhhhhhhhhh no

i searched durian candy!!!!!! it was this i had before
my mom must have bought it a few rimes ahhahahaha
http://www.sixthseal.com/archive/June2005/durian_sweets.jpg


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« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2010, 11:07:04 am »
ehhhh
that smell is in my room


it is all too familar, same smell as the candy lol

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Re: Talk about Durian
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« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2010, 07:54:35 am »
has anyone tried the red durian?

does it taste the same?

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« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2011, 11:17:39 pm »
OK, I'm curious to try as close to fresh durian as I can get, though the exorbitant price means it will never be a staple for me, regardless of how fantastic it is. Genefit no longer sells durian, but their site directed me to this site, where they sell packaged Thai durian flesh:

http://www.exoticsuperfoods.com/shop/index.php?main_page=products_all&zenid=3ac19e5bcfc953c9ed7f8119150862fc

Thai Durian, Chanee
Price: $90.00

Thai Durian, Gradoom
Price: $102.00

Thai Durian, Mornthong
Price: $81.00

Thai Durian, Nok Yip
Price: $126.00

Thai Durian, Phuang Manee
Price: $100.00

GS says that Thai durian is the best, so this might be good, anyone have a better online source for durian that ships to the USA? If not, which one of these should I buy?

I've noticed that durian really seems to bring out the fanatic in people. Lots of people post online along the lines of "what's wrong with the people who don't like it?" or "what's wrong with the people who DO like it?" For some reason, lots of people don't seem to accept that foods taste different to different people. This seems to be more pronounced with fruits than most other foods. No one seems to get angry if someone doesn't like the taste of broccoli or mushrooms, but if someone shares their honest finding that durian tastes like fermented onion and they don't like it, then some people are liable to go off on them at Youtube.

Freeze-dried durian tasted like fermented onion to me, just like lots of folks have reported, so please don't shoot them. Some say that the reason that some durian tastes like fermented onion is that it isn't fresh, not that people's tastes differ, though the Zimmern Bizarre Foods video showing one person hating durian and saying it tastes like rotted onion and another loving the very same fruit attests otherwise. I'm curious to give fresher durian a try once to see what that tastes like to me.
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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2011, 02:10:51 am »
It’s strange that the cheapest is the Mornthong, because in Thailand it’s the most prized and most expensive kind!  It’s got small seeds and a lot of very soft and tasty flesh but it’s the most selected. You can try it but I would prefer the Gradoom, which is a much wilder variety with a stronger, more typical taste. I don’t know about the other varieties they sell, except the Chanee, which is very common and cheap in Thailand but not at all the best, at least for me.

Overall, I find there’s often more difference between two durians of the same variety than between  two durians of different varieties, the oldest trees giving the best ones. The ripest ones are also the best for me and I always specify “very ripe” when placing an order to Orkos. A ripe durian should open by itself, but in Thailand they open them with a machete, most of the time before they’re fully ripe. Of course, they should also be ripen on the tree as long as possible. Anyway, the Thai ones have a fairly constant decent quality, unlike in Indonesia and especially in Sri Lanka where they’re all different, smaller, much more wild and ranging from very bad inedible ones (harvested much too early or from bad trees, or even both!) to the most delicious ones, with the broadest range of unique flavors. A very good Sri Lanka durian would be much better than the best Thai one, but finding the most delectable one to you and suiting you best is a real pastime in Sri Lanka!

As durian are very rich in some specific nutrients (fats and proteins, I think), it’s normal that it repeals people being in overload of the same kind of nutrients such as Westerners having consumed lots of dairy products and/or being in constant nutritional overload.

I would ask the guys of this company: is it still possible to import non-irradiated fruit in US? 
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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2011, 02:40:22 am »
As durian are very rich in some specific nutrients (fats and proteins, I think), it’s normal that it repeals people being in overload of the same kind of nutrients such as Westerners having consumed lots of dairy products and/or being in constant nutritional overload.

    I heard durian has so much potassium in it that it is dangerous on risk of death to some individuals, that they will lose too many fluids.  I've tried durian fresh and dried.  Fresh was nice, but not my favorite fruit.  Dried was awful.
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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2011, 01:49:38 pm »
I've heard that consuming durian with alcohol will kill you.

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« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2011, 01:56:04 pm »
I've heard that consuming durian with alcohol will kill you.

    Both diuretics.  Maybe it's like putting two "downer" drugs together where it's said instead of twice the effect it gives about ten times.
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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2011, 04:32:14 pm »
I've heard that consuming durian with alcohol will kill you.

Yep.  I've heard this too from my uncle.  He swears he once had a friend who died eating durian and drinking beer at the same time.

It's only prudent to follow the urban legend.  Besides, alcohol isn't healthy.
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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2011, 10:58:38 pm »
It’s strange that the cheapest is the Mornthong, because in Thailand it’s the most prized and most expensive kind!  It’s got small seeds and a lot of very soft and tasty flesh but it’s the most selected. You can try it but I would prefer the Gradoom, which is a much wilder variety with a stronger, more typical taste.
It sounds like maybe a beginner should start with the milder Mornthong?

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Overall, I find there’s often more difference between two durians of the same variety than between  two durians of different varieties, the oldest trees giving the best ones. The ripest ones are also the best for me and I always specify “very ripe” when placing an order to Orkos.
Some people have said that beginners should start with a less ripe durian, because they claim it will have less of the infamous "rotted onions" flavor then.

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As durian are very rich in some specific nutrients (fats and proteins, I think), it’s normal that it repeals people being in overload of the same kind of nutrients such as Westerners having consumed lots of dairy products and/or being in constant nutritional overload.
Interesting speculation. I recall in one video report on durian, a local Asian woman said that she does not like durian. She was a city dweller so it's possible she could have been eating a Western, calorically rich diet.

It looks like the durian-alcohol problem is more than just urban legend:

Eating durian with alcohol can actually kill you
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-09-17/health/28085519_1_durian-alcohol-eating

Wow, I didn't realize there were so many issues with durian. I never saw this stuff revealed on vegan sites. Thanks for the warnings. On second thought, maybe it would be better that I don't find one that tastes good, to avoid tempting myself with a fruit that is so expensive, of widely varying quality, possibly irradiated, and may be lethal with alcohol or due to potassium overload and dehydration?
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Re: Talk about Durian
« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2011, 11:46:09 pm »
Eating durian with alcohol can actually kill you
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-09-17/health/28085519_1_durian-alcohol-eating

GS referred to this in the first post of the thread.

Some people are deathly afraid of durian being extremely high cholesterol and my uncle says he had a friend who died after mixing a lot of durian with beer!

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« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2011, 11:50:09 pm »
Yes, thanks, and he repeated that report in his most recent post. I didn't think much about one person's second-hand report at the time of his original post, but seeing the rumor repeated by someone else got me curious, so I looked into it and found that there apparently is something to it.
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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2011, 12:53:45 am »
Some people are deathly afraid of durian being extremely high cholesterol and my uncle says he had a friend who died after mixing a lot of durian with beer! 

    The same kind of people won't try an avocado off the wild tree for danger of dietary cholesterol and proceed to KFC for fried chicken, a fast food burger and coffee or cola, I've seen it.
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