Liver problems, high cholesterol - NEED HELP

[Dingeman]

Hi

My doctor said that I have LDL 6 times as high as the people who are treated for high LDL, so that is really high.
Even though I know cholesterol isn't bad for you and that it is sugar that causes heart disease etc. 6 times is still way too high, even for raw paleo diet.

I think that I might have a liver problem that is making my excess cholesterol not be filtered by the liver.
Something like fatty liver disease.

Does any1 of you know how to heal fatty liver disease or liver problems? I am already eating more raw liver but other tips are welcome!

[TylerDurden]

Try eating some raw  milk thistle seeds daily.

Go in for water-fasting for  7-10 days at a time?

[van]

why don't you post here your diet for some time, your exercise routine, and your stress levels.

[Dingeman]

My diet consists of raw ground beef with extra fat, this is my main fat source. I also eat high meat every once in a while and raw liver every week. Unfortunately when I eat too much raw meat I get blurry vision and light-headedness. This has led me to cooking my meat more often and mixing in grapes and pineapples from time to time. I also eat raw herring twice a week and mussels once a week.

The blurry vision makes me think that I have liver problems, and I do notice after eating raw liver that the blurry vision gets a little bit better. My plan now is to eat lots of raw liver and lots of pineapple to help these symptoms go away.

Stress level is normal I would say. I go to university and I am in my second year of my bachelor. My field is also not that hard and I got plenty of free time so I don't think that's it.


So do you think that it has anything to do with my liver? liver blood deficiency perhaps? Fatty liver disease?

[van]

I wish I was qualified to help.  But, I will suggest ( and this is a raw forum ) that cooking meat and fat Could be a source.  Of course, I would also suggest  making sure you're eating grass fed only, same with fat, and to move away from ground beef and slicing it very fine to enjoy. Eat only enough fat as to your liking by itself ( assuming you can find back fat, not suet) slicing piece by piece.  Eating it mixed in with ground meat you have no way of knowing how much Your body at that particular meal needs/wants.   Eating ground you could be very easily be eating too much.   Try to eat small portions 2 or even three times a day.  Your body can only use so much protein at any one meal and toxically converts excess into sugars and triglycerides.   Also eating fruit, especially any good amounts especially with fat, in my experience, can lead to glycation,, where the fat is sticking to the sugar.  In my experience fruit is better eaten with greens or other non-starchy vegetables.    A small piece of fresh pineapple being the exception as it can aid digestion.
   Is your liver sore, including palpation?   If you can find one, you might try an herbal liver cleanse for a short while. 

[sabertooth]

Super high cholesterol could be related to a liver issue...but for the most part the liver is a self healing organ so if there is a problem it could be resolved by eliminating the sources of the damaging factors, whatever that may be.

Are you taking any drugs, alcohol, caffeine, or supplements or eating any other foods which could be an issue?

Grapes may not be the best kind of fruit, pesticides used in conventional grapes can be extremely toxic to some carnivores and perhaps even people who lack proper enzymes to mitigate the poison, plus the way most grapes and other commercial and or "organic"fruits are produced these days are questionable. I am often wary about the quality of grass fed beef and wild caught sea food people are eating? The world is becoming a cesspool and labels on food bought at the market are often worthless in determining quality of the food.

If possible I would recommend getting a hair analysis, it would tell you if there are any major deficiencies or imbalances.

[Dingeman]

Super high cholesterol could be related to a liver issue...but for the most part the liver is a self healing organ so if there is a problem it could be resolved by eliminating the sources of the damaging factors, whatever that may be.

Are you taking any drugs, alcohol, caffeine, or supplements or eating any other foods which could be an issue?

Grapes may not be the best kind of fruit, pesticides used in conventional grapes can be extremely toxic to some carnivores and perhaps even people who lack proper enzymes to mitigate the poison, plus the way most grapes and other commercial and or "organic"fruits are produced these days are questionable. I am often wary about the quality of grass fed beef and wild caught sea food people are eating? The world is becoming a cesspool and labels on food bought at the market are often worthless in determining quality of the food.

If possible I would recommend getting a hair analysis, it would tell you if there are any major deficiencies or imbalances.

I ate zero carb for a while which is basically zero inflammation so I don't know why my liver still produces cholesterol. When I eat raw liver the symptoms go away but only a little bit. The doctor told me he think I might be a carrier of a gene that makes my liver unable to stop producing a certain kind of cholesterol, resulting in my symptoms. He says I need to take pills but I already know that eating raw liver works better for it.

The hair thing is interesting, my dandruff came back as of lately but my hair has been brighter and stronger since I've started this WOE.

So what I know so far:

- There is something wrong with my liver, and eating raw liver helps but it doesn't completely solve the problem.
- My doctor thinks it's in my genes, which could be possible, however, does this mean I can't cure it? We all know that gene-related stuff is bullshit 99% of the time, it's always due to poor diet. (however it doesn't make sense in my case)

[surfsteve]

You sound like one for the medical textbooks. I'm sure you a probably aware already but liver is very high in cholesterol. I read that a lot of Italians have high cholesterol though not as high as yours and live extremely long lives. Why do you assume there is something wrong with your liver? Could it be your liver is merely responding to a condition demanding lots of cholesterol that you haven't figured out yet?

[Dingeman]

You sound like one for the medical textbooks. I'm sure you a probably aware already but liver is very high in cholesterol. I read that a lot of Italians have high cholesterol though not as high as yours and live extremely long lives. Why do you assume there is something wrong with your liver? Could it be your liver is merely responding to a condition demanding lots of cholesterol that you haven't figured out yet?

Because when I eat raw liver, the blurry vision and feeling of light-headedness go away. I also read that liver problems cause eye problems most of the time.

My liver could very well be responding to a condition demanding lots of cholesterol. But it is producing so much cholesterol that I feel a lot of pressure in my head and other body parts when I eat raw fat (which produces lots of cholesterol) or fructose. It got so bad today that I had to go home from school and eat raw liver for the feeling to subside.

Isn't it more likely that there is something wrong with my liver?

Also, my doctor said my liver might not be able to regulate cholesterol production because of gene-expression. Doesn't that sound like the problem?

[sabertooth]

I would want to be 100% sure that the liver you are eating is the purist quality. Even grass fed labeled beef is often dewormed 60 days before slaughter, and could be contaminated with drug and vaccine residues. Dont trust labels, if you are serious about eating this way I recommend going out to the farm, and actually inspecting the animals and pastures they are raised on.

[ys]

Your liver is probably fine.  It does not make extra cholesterol just because.  There are markers all over our body that tell liver to produce it.  It could also be genetic.  One of the worst thing you can do is take statins.  I'm guessing that's what doc is telling you.  There some things that lower cholesterol like garlic.

[Dingeman]

Thanks for all the tips guys. Even though I haven't exactly cured whatever I have, it's nice to know that there are people out there willing to help me!

I was wondering, could it be that I have a liver infection? Something like hepatitis C or Lyme disease.
The raw fat that I eat destroys a lot of toxins in my body, but they aren't cleaned up because of my disfunctioning liver. When I eat raw liver it feels like I get cleaned up and all the headaches and pressure in the head goes away. Maybe I am really toxic because of lyme or hepatitis? Could that be the case?

[sabertooth]

Chronic Headaches are definitely a sign that something is not right, I would recommend a hair analysis to see if you have any heavy metal toxicity or mineral imbalance.

[Xisca]

I would eat bitter greens like dandelion and artichoke leaves and even olive leaves, and milk thistle seeds. I eat greens with a lot of apple vinegar.

I also had some high cholesterol though not that much, and some liver congestion, and I solved it with olive oil mixed with citrus juice 1st thing in the morning to do some liver flush. No fat for dinner.

Bile is made of cholesterol, so you have to flush it out, and also bile will remove toxins. Olive oil is for me the best at doing this. Not only organic and cold pressed, I choose the strongest taste, not the ones they sell as "mild".

[political atheist]

I would eat bitter greens like dandelion and artichoke leaves and even olive leaves, and milk thistle seeds. I eat greens with a lot of apple vinegar.

I also had some high cholesterol though not that much, and some liver congestion, and I solved it with olive oil mixed with citrus juice 1st thing in the morning to do some liver flush. No fat for dinner.

Bile is made of cholesterol, so you have to flush it out, and also bile will remove toxins. Olive oil is for me the best at doing this. Not only organic and cold pressed, I choose the strongest taste, not the ones they sell as "mild".

hi, how much olive oil in how much citrus juice? how much u wait before u eat?

which brand(s) of olive oil do u use?

[Xisca]

Virgin olive oil.
I do not calculate and mix well and try to get something tasty, and not more than what Ii can drink and still feel ok!

I have done the complete liver flush before, from Andreas moritz, so you can find it to get inspired. this is a mild version that i do on a more often basis, as i dont suspect any stone. it can be wise to use malic acid at dinner, for stone softening. And no fat at dinner, to get some bile build up.

[Dingeman]

Hey guys, I figured out I had problems due to toxicity from killing too much candida toxins at once without making them leave the body properly. I solved this problem by eating less raw meat and more raw fat, while also eating raw liver every 2/3 days.

[Xisca]

Good to know! How did you found out?

[political atheist]

Good to know! How did you found out?

what brands of olive oil do u use?

[Edwardjjudge]

Hey guys, I figured out I had problems due to toxicity from killing too much candida toxins at once without making them leave the body properly. I solved this problem by eating less raw meat and more raw fat, while also eating raw liver every 2/3 days.

Very interesting, can you explain more? It was your liver then, having to deal with the candida?