I tried eating some fruit today before I ate any meat and didn't have the reaction. If meat is in my stomach when I eat the fruit it tends to happen often, but has happened before when eaten solo. Because im used to eating meat by bolting it down, even when I eat fruit I still bolt it, perhaps has some effect.
Hmmm, I don't bolt my meat, maybe that does have something to do with it? It sounds like you may have some gastritis and/or reflux going on (I used to have both and I think I still have some minor damage left from the gastritis).
An aside to Tyler--I should mention that dairy products used to give me throat mucus too, despite the study that claims that doesn't happen. When I drank orange juice or milk I'd often have to stand at the sink for a few minutes spitting out the mucus. It kept coming up after the juice or milk was gone, so the study's claim that the mucus is actually the milk fat did not apply to my case (nonfat milk had the same effect, BTW).
... When I first started the raw zero carb some months ago I was very strict and nothing to complain about (couldn't make my gums bleed if I tried) but after eating out a bit more even though eating a lot of raw meat have found my gums bleeding on occasion, vertical ridges on my fingernails. and hair shedding. Who knows if adding fruit will only make these problems worse....
That's interesting--some of my vertical fingernail ridges started disappearing years ago when I cut gluten out of my diet, then they gradually came back, and now since going carnivorous they've started disappearing again. It seems like carbs contribute to my nail ridges. When I searched the web on it, some people linked it to a deficiency in iron, calcium, magnesium or protein. Another thing that diminished when I cut out gluten and again when I went carnivore was white spots on my nails. These have been linked by many people to zinc deficiency. One ignorant doctor tried to explain the white spots away by saying they were from banging nails on bed headboards while sleeping (which didn't explain why I had them without a headboard or anything else solid to hit within arms reach of my bed, and also didn't explain why they disappear completely when I cut back on carbs and otherwise were always with me every single day).
That burning sensation at the back of your throat is called a "stop".
It is a message from your immune system to you, meaning "DON'T EAT THIS, IT'S BAD FOR YOU."
Not all fruits are equal, for instance I can eat cherries and peaches in season, but not others.
Thanks for the info, William. I got that burning from organic, sulfite-free red wine recently. It was terrible. I must be becoming more sensitive to this now that I'm nearly-raw carnivorous, because it was a much worse reaction than I'd ever had to a small amount of wine before.
I find that eating bone meal, dolomite, or healing clays with fruit really reduces the mood swings and tooth problems that fruit can cause.
Interesting, scientists have explained that chimps eat clays to detoxify when they eat a lot of plant antinutrients. Does it help with plant carbs too? I have some healing clays now and it would be good to know if I cheat on plant carbs that I have something that can reduce the side effects.
I grew vertical ridges on my fingernails after 1 year on raw paleo... after adding raw meat to my diet. (from vegan then fruitarian)
I'm on mostly meat + fruit.
What a puzzle. I wonder what mechanism can explain why the ridges appear with raw meat on your nails and disappear by cutting back on carbs on mine?
...vertical ridges are something to 'not be too concerned about' though that's not very reassuring honestly.
Yeah, that's a standard copout of doctors and other so-called "experts" who don't know the cause of something. It does nothing to explain why it changes with diet. I'm not concerned about it, I'm just curious. The lack of curiosity and the willingness to just dismiss physical realities or use old wives-tale explanations (like the headboard-banging explanation for white spots) instead of scientific explanation among the so-called "experts" is frankly disturbing and undercuts their credibility.
