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Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« on: January 20, 2010, 03:17:16 pm »
I can't seem to remember aajonus mentioning eating back fat / muscle fat.
I just remember bone marrow, dairy stuff, eggs and avocados, coconuts.
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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 05:25:26 pm »
Aajonus usually recommends lean muscle-meats like chicken turkey(probably because their taste is easier to get used to). Unfortunately, those are usually fed on grains , however organic they may be, so are not ideal.
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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 08:58:32 pm »
    He talks about beef, white meats, ocean fish, fertile eggs, raw butter, raw milk, never been frozen marrow, making green juices, unripe fruit, clay, cold pressed refrigerated flax oil, stone pressed olive oil, unsalted cheese, that's all that comes to mind.

    I don't think he is against back fat, he just recommends things people enjoy for the most part, and of course that are healing.
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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 03:49:01 am »
I can't seem to remember aajonus mentioning eating back fat / muscle fat.
I just remember bone marrow, dairy stuff, eggs and avocados, coconuts.

Whats back fat? the fat around muscles & lean meats & livers?

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 04:34:21 am »
Whats back fat? the fat around muscles & lean meats & livers?

It's the fat on the back under the skin just in front of the tail.

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 04:37:31 am »
Whats back fat? the fat around muscles & lean meats & livers?
Back fat is hide fat. Large deposit on the back below the hide, above the rear legs.

It's funny; there's lots of different kinds of fat on a steer (or other animal) and there are multiple slang/alternate terms for the fat deposits. It'd be nice if one of us had background as a butcher so we could have definitive terms.

I found this site (http://bovine.unl.edu/bovine3D/eng/nIntro.jsp) while looking for a clear answer. It gives a little mroe help but that's about it. :(

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 11:41:12 pm »
Well according to aajonus & bechamp, the hide fat, should be one of the most nutritious parts, as a large number of colonies of beneficial bacteria, deposited & stored, as fecal is not only deposited, but is also carried through cell walls & membranes

For example the rear cut on beef, has alot more flavour & the taste is far more pronounced than fillets or sirloins, because of the bacteria & larger amounts of nutrients deposited

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 01:03:30 am »
For example the rear cut on beef, has alot more flavour & the taste is far more pronounced than fillets or sirloins, because of the bacteria & larger amounts of nutrients deposited
FWIW I find chuck to be more flavorful than a rump cut.

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 05:26:54 am »
FWIW I find chuck to be more flavorful than a rump cut.

never tried chuck, i know rump smells alot more & makes me gag everytime i eat the stuff lol

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 04:48:23 am »
I always wanted someone to ask him why he goes on and on about dairy fat and never mentions animal body fat as a good fat source. It's so strange because it's clearly more natural for humans to eat then dairy fats, and is cheaper.

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 06:49:04 am »
Because aajonus only really talks about the latest research & studies, which also makes his work a pain in the ass to research

There is no research on raw animal fat, apart from using fats for soap, so he never talks about it

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2010, 06:59:52 am »
He says he does research. Why doesn't he do it?

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2010, 07:02:45 am »
He says he does research. Why doesn't he do it?

Research what? I just explained why he doesnt talk about raw animal fats

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2010, 07:07:48 am »
AV supposedly has done research on the effects of certain foods. If you read his books you'll see that foods he recommends, of juice preparations, have next to their name a description of what they do, such as "removes heavy metal toxicity."

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2010, 07:22:35 am »
AV supposedly has done research on the effects of certain foods. If you read his books you'll see that foods he recommends, of juice preparations, have next to their name a description of what they do, such as "removes heavy metal toxicity."

lol did you read my post? He DOES research ...

"Because aajonus only really talks about the latest research & studies, which also makes his work a pain in the ass to research" - alot of the research he cites is also pretty obscure like his reasons for using honey & milk


I will give credit where credits due, aajonus makes researchers work over time, trying to track down his studies is a pain


I havent found anything by aajonus which isnt supported by verifiable studies or research, he knows his field really well, even though stuff like dairy & honey looks good theoretically, according to the research he cites, in practise there are difference

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2010, 07:23:15 am »
Where is this research? Does he publish it?

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2010, 07:31:49 am »
Where is this research? Does he publish it?

He cites other peoples research, in his books, he hasnt used his own research in his books or his interviews, he only cites research IF it coincides with existing research, he doesnt publish the research you cant verify, i think he saves that for his private clients


For example he talks about reversing hair loss, but never published the research or the method, as theres no existing research to support it

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 08:38:58 am »
Aajonus does his personal intuition, experience, experiments and testimonials with his patients.  Just like most of us gain experience with ourselves, family, friends and testimonials in this forum.

I see nothing wrong with that.

It has to do with defining the word "research".
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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 09:10:17 am »
AV has paid for analytical laboratory work, such as in his finding that mercury in raw fish is 98% excreted, while only 2% of mercury in cooked fish is excreted.
The story IIRC of why he quotes no research is that he keeps no such records, therefore immune to gov't search and seizure and persecution, see the experience of Hulda Regehr Clark who was jailed for curing people.
So instead of being jailed, he gets assaulted and poisoned in his hotel room.

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 09:17:04 am »
AV has paid for analytical laboratory work, such as in his finding that mercury in raw fish is 98% excreted, while only 2% of mercury in cooked fish is excreted.
The story IIRC of why he quotes no research is that he keeps no such records, therefore immune to gov't search and seizure and persecution, see the experience of Hulda Regehr Clark who was jailed for curing people.
So instead of being jailed, he gets assaulted and poisoned in his hotel room.

So its ok to eat mercury contaminated fish? lol

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 09:28:28 am »
The mercury in fish tale is a debatable thing and could be placed in a new topic.

Let's stay on topic.
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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2010, 11:22:42 am »
Hey Kyle

I got a friend to ask AV why he doesn't really promote animal fat but strongly emphasizes dairy. His reply was that dairy is much easier to get hold of.

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2010, 11:55:48 am »
Maybe Aajonus does not have access to beef muscle fat because in his locale they trim the fat off the beef?
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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2010, 07:46:10 pm »
That's an interesting statement, since only two states in the entire USA can legally retail raw dairy but you can get raw bodyfat in every state (afaik). My belief is he endorses it because it's tastier, and maybe he's making up this other reason because he himself is hooked on dairy and wants a reason other then that to endorse it.

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Re: Does Aajonus mention eating back fat?
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 07:48:23 pm »
AV has paid for analytical laboratory work, such as in his finding that mercury in raw fish is 98% excreted, while only 2% of mercury in cooked fish is excreted.
The story IIRC of why he quotes no research is that he keeps no such records, therefore immune to gov't search and seizure and persecution, see the experience of Hulda Regehr Clark who was jailed for curing people.
So instead of being jailed, he gets assaulted and poisoned in his hotel room.

It just would be nice to have something to look at when he's spouting out claims. He makes a lot of money on his books and consultations, he has plenty of motive to make up research results.

 

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