Journalistica

[miles]

Hey KD, what was your health like before you were a fruitarian, and what led you to become one?

[KD]

hmmm. I guess this is buried in my journal somewhere.

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/journals/journalistica/msg34059/#msg34059
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/journals/journalistica/msg34150/#msg34150

so yeah. pretty heavy for me. I've had a lot of residual affects from these things but the plus is i'm still walking/kicking ass when I was assured that was going to be impossible without major surgery. And this is/was minor and cosmetic compared to the other stuff. I've had some pretty intense diagnosis and treatments and am pretty sure i'm the only person my age that i know that has had a spinal tap.

Basically all my experiences with the medical community made me know I had to do things differently then how everyone else was doing them. it was a slow learning curve I guess that drew me to veganism - then all raw sprouts/plant fats and then doing largely fruits to try to maintain some level of 'success' (calories) with only eating raw plants.

Before and during the almost exclusively fruit phase, I did alot of cleanses and such which I still maintain were helpful. I showed alot of measurable improvement on bone scans and such just getting off modern foods and juicing dandelion greens and such. I was involved in a bunch of other esoteric practices, various spiritual yoga and sun-gazing which might have been helpful in some ways but proved unbalancing as well.

I still check in with conventional docs and stuff, get extensive blood work and such. things seem much better but I usually carry some underlying anxiety from the whole ordeal or which diet is best etc...in short as far as I remember my health has always been bad to abominable. Now after 5+ years of experiments, although I think there is still a degree of sacrifice that feels largely unfair in compassion to most of my peers, but lately I hardly feel like I put in that much daily effort to feel probably better than average, although nothing is totally perfect of course.  Part of this might be time and part might still be finding the right approach for me.  But yeah quite a noticeable improvement to many.

[miles]

Thanks.

[Cinna]

Haha! I've never been much of a dater... I'm trying to change that atm, but so far it hasn't seemed worth the "trouble" (I sound like I have a bad attitude). Perhaps I don't give people enough of a "chance," but I also feel like I "know" I like someone within three minutes or three hours or three days of talking to or knowing them. Even when I've been "wrong" about someone I liked, I wasn't really wrong because there was something significant (growth-enhancing or pre-in utero contract-fulfilling or karmic debt-paying) that I needed to learn/experience from my interaction with them.

This first thing reminds me of the old Chris Farley routine with the quotes..on weekend update.

Let me punctuate in peace!!!!

Who is the pot, KD? Who is the pot...

But let's not squabble... Herman's Hermits Starring Peter Noone is playing at a local club Nov. 27th - wanna go with me? The last couple times I've been in my non-WF local HFS, a Herman's Hermits song was playing. It's a sign. Oh sh*tstickles! (supposed to rhyme with "popsicles," not "testicles") - I'm scheduled to work that night... I can't miss work right now.  I'm sorry. Nevermind.

[dsohei]

hey KD, you have a lot of muscle mass, so your health now is really good, otherwise you wouldnt be able to maintain it. perhaps you are "almost there" and need to tweak your neuro-transmitters or fully make sure your gut health is healed.

im a young guy, 30, and have always been under the gun healthwise, but on the outside i look fine, but no muscle mass due to overstressed metabolism and systemic inflammation. the fact that you look as good as you do is a great bio-marker for health.

i eat a raw-ish hypo-allergenic paleo solution diet now and i'm healing my gut finally.

[KD]

thanks man, yeah I tend to think you are right. but I have brains too you know . I was just trying to answer Miles' question accurately, and reveal that I also still have doubts and concerns on top of my sucesses.

I have a few of the tradtional (as in Tradtional Chinese Medicine) signs of poor digestive health (not to mention the more obvious little burps sometimes) but I agree it makes little sense how this wouldn't affect so many other things if it really was that severe. I just recently started slamming down food. Prior to that I seemed to be efficiently using what I ate so I have to assume my stomach is functioning for the most part.

I think i'm pretty far from overthinking these things these days, but I do like to be open and honest so I can perhaps get feedback/refine things further or give insight to others. on this thread I started to mention some of my awareness to potential issues with a VLC diet.

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/hot-topics/dangers-of-rzc-part-ii/msg53737/#msg53737

So for me its just benefical to reveal any symptoms in the possibility they are tied to what I am doing rather than something unique to me. Perhaps others have differnt desires, but ideally my goal is be able to eat any omniorous raw foods or cooked paleo foods (including starch) when the situation arises and have no issues such as CFS or eye burnout. Its strange because I think sometimes people here overremphasise and dwell on particular issues to the point where they can be destructive, but equally likely there are probably things people CAN do differently to change their situation, and often times this can go beyond a certain comfort zone or even logic I think. This is probably why i'm more drawn and open to ideas based on healing and tools as opposted to foods that are the most natural to eat.

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http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/exercisebodybuilding/today's-workout/msg53945/#msg53945
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Cinna this is exactly the kind of messages I get on my phone from girls. Good to hear the hermits are still playing though.

[Ioanna]

Cinna this is exactly the kind of messages I get on my phone from girls. Good to hear the hermits are still playing though.

lol, but maybe this time it's different because now you get to go see Cinna perform!   duh! 

don't forget the flowers!!

[Cinna]

Cinna this is exactly the kind of messages I get on my phone from girls. Good to hear the hermits are still playing though.

KD, this is exactly the kind of response I get from one of the guys at work... I'll pay him a sincere compliment or give a thoughtful response (feedback) to something he's said, and instead of saying "thanks," he says, "Do you know how many women have said that to me? Do you know how many times I have heard that before?" He is a good guy. Maybe somewhere inside he does feel special or flattered, but it doesn't make me feel like he really "received" anything from me - how special can it be when so many other people have told him the same thing?

Well, it is special coming from me. I thought of you when I found out about the concert (and I heard the two songs on two separate occasions). I thought that you would enjoy an HH concert, so I invited you. And even though you probably couldn't make it and I really do have to work, you are the only person I asked to go with me because you are the person I would have liked to see HH with. I'm having a very sensitive day and my tantrum is now over. Just know that you were being thought of.

lol, but maybe this time it's different because now you get to go see Cinna perform!   duh! 

don't forget the flowers!!

Ohhhh, you're sweet, Ioanna... Actually, I'd recommend the HH concert (over my show). (These smilies are no longer descriptive enough for me... I can't find the right one.)

[KD]

I'll pay him a sincere compliment or give a thoughtful response (feedback) to something he's said, and instead of saying "thanks," he says, "Do you know how many women have said that to me? Do you know how many times I have heard that before?" He is a good guy. Maybe somewhere inside he does feel special or flattered, but it doesn't make me feel like he really "received" anything from me - how special can it be when so many other people have told him the same thing?

I think that is perhaps a bit diffent, particulary with the surrounding conversation and me regulary shareing my experiences with women in this journal. I wasn't saying 'oh like i havn't heard this before', I was just repeating fom the previous conversation that I get alot of indirect opportunity-tease type mixed messages from girls ("I want you to come over right now..but wait... I have something else to do that probably isnt important. Why don't you wait around and I'LL call you some other time??"). Of course yours didn't truly fit this category as the sentiment was in the thought and not the practicallity of actually happening - thus the irony in being opposite in similiarity. I regret that you took it the way you did, as on my end it was just meant to be a joke on me.

Aw, you're a prince, KD... I don't want my own forum journal, so I'm so happy that I can speak to myself here in your journal! Thank you, I'll be sure to talk about my period (once every 28 days), ovaries, costume jewelry, organic tampons, feng shui, Alien Nation, homeopathy, baby goats, and other critical questions/issues pertaining to life and career - liquid eyeliner or pencil eyeliner? I'll be posting pix of my cats and comic book collection here, as well. OK? Swell! I'm co-opting your journal because you said I could.

I believe our journal vows included "in tantrum and in Alien Nation".

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would it help to send the flowers now?  

[miles]

lol, but maybe this time it's different because now you get to go see Cinna perform!   duh! 

don't forget the flowers!!

What was wrong with this idea?

[Cinna]

I think that is perhaps a bit diffent, particulary with the surrounding conversation and me regulary shareing my experiences with women in this journal. I wasn't saying 'oh like i havn't heard this before', I was just repeating fom the previous conversation that I get alot of indirect opportunity-tease type mixed messages from girls ("I want you to come over right now..but wait... I have something else to do that probably isnt important. Why don't you wait around and I'LL call you some other time??"). Of course yours didn't truly fit this category as the sentiment was in the thought and not the practicallity of actually happening - thus the irony in being opposite in similiarity. I regret that you took it the way you did, as on my end it was just meant to be a joke on me.

OK, thank you for your kind/gentle and non-defensive response. I do take full responsibility for how I took it - I was aware of my sensitivity, yet I still had to post something pouty - no matter how "ridiculous" the situation considering how we are joking around all the time and I did indeed invite you to something that neither of us would be able to go to (but perhaps in a parallel universe, we would be going!) and then took it back (joking around, as usual). (Like when my sis would come home and tell me about the most incredible dessert she got me at Mani's and then apologize because she couldn't help herself and ate it on the way home. Yeah, that sucks.) I love SD's recent quote post, b/c it makes me feel better about what happened (how I reacted and responded - there was some consciousness and awareness there).

"The great moments of our life are at the points when we gain courage to re-baptise our badness as the best in us." (Nietzsche)

In this case, I'm interpreting "badness" as also "weakness" - b/c we're taught that shadow emotions are "bad." They are somewhat messy and ugly and inconvenient - but also beautiful because they are very human and honest and pure. It would have eaten at me inside if I tried to push the sulky/pouty feelings aside... at the risk of looking extremely silly and ridiculous (where the courage plays in actually), I had to express myself. I took pains to be sincere and not bitchy/sarcastic. I was fully aware that you did nothing wrong.

I believe our journal vows included "in tantrum and in Alien Nation".

You're right... Funny you should quote something that mentions period and tampons at this moment.   I already know that refined sugar and pre-menstrual/menstrual are a volatile combination for me and I get to see it play out on the public forum. YES!

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would it help to send the flowers now?  

Oh, your post was my flowers... thank you so much, they're beautiful!   (I had a forum moment - thank you again for understanding, I really appreciate it.)

[KD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OoSMj6GjGc

[Cinna]

Omg, reminds me of Christian the Lion - waterworks everytime! I LOOOOOOOOVE Christian. <3 <3 <3

It was chilly today! I was cold. Don't tell anyone, but I'm craving s'mores ... I think it's the weather... and maybe also the commercial I saw on TV...?

Say, that was your Mammoth Hunter-crowning post - congrats!

[KD]

I had a raw thanksgiving

I had 1 lb of liver and 3 fatty lamb blade chops and ground organs dogfood and almost an entire lb of raw butter throughout the day - much of which was consumed with some dates as my little thanksgiving 'guilty pleasure' that everyone at my gym was talking about as being well deserved. Technically, I generally don't consider dates from anywhere but the tree or The Date People to be truly raw..but these were bought refrigerated and organic. I tried to eat them with some in-shell pecans that I had bought, but since I don't have a nut cracker I was bashing them with a mag-lite and making a tremendous mess and noise. I figured it was Thanksgiving and would give my neighbors (really noisy themselves usually) a break. I didn't sample the taste yet and can't say i've had a nut in ages...oh yeah I started the day giving thanks with six extra large whole eggs.


I had cooked some really fractally looking romensco from my farmers market and some Japanese yam a few days ago so it wasn't really for purist reasons. Just had a quiet day. People usually can't cook turkey for shit anyway. The yams actually digested perfectly unlike the regular red potato I tried a few months ago which left me in terrible heartburn and questioning my digestive capabilities. Could be a quantity difference. I did see my folks and mentioned this same thing and they said people that eat 2lbs of potatoes might get heartburn. I said what about 1lb of butter?

It was chilly today! I was cold. Don't tell anyone, but I'm craving s'mores ... I think it's the weather... and maybe also the commercial I saw on TV...?

Say, that was your Mammoth Hunter-crowning post - congrats!

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yes and even more mammoth amounts of slamming my keyboard as PD would say. ah well, makes the day go by at work.

don't know what to tell you on the smores. I know commercial TV is just really over the top these days with the food ads. I always Crave 'blue' and want to stick foods inside of other foods inside of peanut butter almost immediately following my regularly scheduled program.

[Paleo Donk]

You needed a nut cracker to crack pecans, wtf? Just put two together in one hand and squeeze them together. My 80 year old grandpa dying of cancer showed me this trick.

[KD]

ok..well this journal has become rather uneventful, I'm willing to take no more than half the responsibility here.

been experiencing a range of positive and negative things. mostly positive in regards to diet/health/strength, mostly negative in regards to life stuff. I won't bore with details. I thought I might have had some kind of fluke as my elimination was in its terrible/great cycle it seems to do, but now I think the things I see are just long strands from the organ mix I eat. My elimination is also back to something any 'healthy' person would be proud of. I dunno. I've put on almost 15 lbs of mostly muscle in a few months, so i'm guessing I have less tape worms than I had most other years in my life. I've just been crushing at the gym, I credit the lack of anything else going on and my massive sleep and laziness ethic in addition to my strict yet balanced diet.

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/exercisebodybuilding/today%27s-workout/msg55039/#msg55039
up till today 12/9. my legs are definitely showing the most change in mass, with my vascularity being the next most noticeable change to myself but hard to see in images.

here is some KD porn

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[KD]

So I attended a potluck at my gym which I has some hesitations about..mostly because it was cold and I couldn't figure out what and how I would bring stuff to eat in my backpack riding...but some general social hangups also. I threw some roots and veggies and crap in the oven, made a salad - forced my effort. The people there are just really great, and I would probably be kicking myself if I had listened to my 'ah who cares' mindset. I think alot in life is just saying yes to things, unless there is some extremely legitimate 'gut' instinct that has nothing to do with ego and comfort zones. Other than social stuff, they had this bike race off thing with a sensor and coach W faced off against Mr. Y, and coach T against coach Z. 10 minutes later coach Z comes up to me and says something like "so coach X says you are a pussy and won't race him" or something and I said, "ok I don't care" ( I had just eaten some root veggies I brought and not in the mood for physical activity particularly sprinting) 1 minute later I hear. Ok so KD vs coach X get ready to race in 5 minutes. ha. so its a 500 m sprint and the times so far are in the upper-mid 20's seconds, so I knew it was going to suck, and my Keds foot sock I wear slipped out of the strap almost right away which not only set me back in adjustment and time ( HAD to be at least one second or more) but made it harder to pedal, but I still won..heh heh. my time for 500 meters was somewhere ~26s and yeah could have been less. the bike was a fixed which I am not used to riding, and it was almost as if my maximum speed went faster than the bike and was uncomfortable. If it had some factored in resistance I would have probably fared even better. Never raced bikes in my life.

[Ioanna]

I'm glad you went, found something you could bring/eat and glad you totally kicked butt on the bike!

I've got a work potluck next week and still trying to decide what to bring.  I hate these things, but potlucks every so often are the only social thing my work does.

[Cinna]

ok..well this journal has become rather uneventful, I'm willing to take no more than half the responsibility here.

HEY! ...good one!!!!!

I appreciate the KD porn. Renew my subscription.

[KD]

HEY! ...good one!!!!!

I appreciate the KD porn. Renew my subscription.

I've upgraded you to the live cam.

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I just got back from a trip to NYC - possibly scouting out whether I might move back there. I'm trying to not let diet and stuff factor in to where and how I live and work but it unfortunately does. I almost took a job where I would be working very long hours in a very professional and clean environment. would be up early and present other issues too for me. So it wasn't the main factor, but probably if I was on a typical routine and drinking coffee or whatever I would have forgot about some of the other negatives and took the opportunity.

Everyone I know eats and drinks crap 24/7 and doesn't seem drastically less healthy...while I go sneak steaks outside in public parks in 15 deg wind chill. Other than that I had a fantastic time.

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after a many year hiatus of not doing traditional gyms I bench pressed 225 lbs. almost 60 lbs over my bodyweight
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/exercisebodybuilding/today%27s-workout/msg56862/#msg56862

[RawZi]

Everyone I know eats and drinks crap 24/7 and doesn't seem drastically less healthy...while I go sneak steaks outside in public parks in 15 deg wind chill. Other than that I had a fantastic time.

    It's hard to tell how "healthy" someone else other than ourselves is.  They might be toxic from their diet and ready to keel and have no idea that will happen any minute.  It would be nicer though for us at least I think, if the world all ate naturally.  I know we're building strength we would have had otherwise, clean strength.

[goodsamaritan]

Dedicated a blog post to you, KD.
Hope you get more fan mail:

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2011/01/05/fruitarian-does-not-work-raw-paleo-diet-works-before-and-after-pics/

[KD]

heh heh, more fan mail. thanks GS.

"KD is a normal human being:" I think this is the nicest thing someone has said to me here. haha. Not sure how true this is, but I definitely feel that this diet is a tool to increase ones health in our current world...to do what we want to do and not just for some abstract goal. Sure there are alot of bad things out there to dwell on, but plenty to keep me entertained and motivated. Maybe i'm too hung up with appearances, but these days I prefer foods that make me feel and look healthy, not some concept of what is good. If I don't get into nitty-gritty details of my diet with others, likely people are pleased with my health and demeanor. I can't prove (or want to) that veganism is bad, but I can say this certainly was not the case for me there...always conflicts with others/rationalizing things that wern't real.

for the record, the pics were taken in 2007 but that was after 1-2 years of fruitarian depending on how one defines such things but being all raw veg for sure. I continued on veganism for at least 6 months after these were taken (tried focusing more on sprouts and some grains, which helped..some), but gradually increased my animal food (fat) consumption.

[KD]

I've been eating alot of local honeycomb all week as a little experiment. I havn't noticed much of any change despite it clearly shifting me over the 30g carb on a daily basis all week. Prior to that I've been trying some cooked starch on the weekends (cycling ketogenic), so I did that again tonight.

Today I ate

some pineapple

1 lb of buffalo sirloin tip with a mason jar of cut back-fat split into 2 meals with the honeycomb

then a third meal of 1.3 lbs mahi mahi with raw butter and more honeycomb

then late: one large Japanese yam from a local farm with sauerkraut, raw bok choy, and some sunflower sprouts with more raw butter.

I've got some symptoms from each, some mild sensations in ears and feet, but seems to be a dramatic improvement to before. I think I'm going to try eating the comb daily this week still, and then I might go back to strict VLC and then try more strict delineation again (weekends) to compare.

[KD]

yesterday I had 1lb of liver, 1.75 drinks of gin&soda neat, got a little stoned for the first time ~ a decade, and had some crazy sex.

currently have a headache and eating some ancient skirt steak during a snowstorm.