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Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« on: July 06, 2010, 04:39:02 am »
Hey RPD'ers...any tips on what to do after eating a traditional cooked meal?  I realize after a few months on Raw Paleo that I need one or two traditional cooked meals a week or else I go totally nuts.

Any tips for cleaning out the dead meat and minimal carbs like bread or corn chips?  I'm assuming eating a bunch of raw veggies like carrots or celery is a good idea.  And since we're on the subject, what are your feelings about Psyllium Husk for cleansing?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 06:10:39 am »
Try a tablespoon or raw organic apple cider vinegar diluted in 8 oz of water right after your meal.
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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 06:38:21 am »
Try a tablespoon or raw organic apple cider vinegar diluted in 8 oz of water right after your meal.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 01:49:45 pm »
Sorry forgot to mention that the raw apple cider vinegar you take should contain "the mother". (It will be labeled if it contains "the mother")
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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 02:08:30 pm »
    I think you will be able to see the mother of vinegar in it.  It floats near the bottom.  One of the few brands that works for me as far as vinegars is Bragg's.
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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 02:50:16 pm »
I use braggs as well, my earlier comment was just to notify them because when I started using acv I didn't know about the mother.
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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 03:37:43 pm »
Eat high meat before a cooked meal, that gets rid of side-effects usually.
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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2010, 09:22:59 am »
I eat cooked meat like lamb or pork all the time. *shrugs* If I ate carbs I would feel like crap though.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2010, 12:44:51 pm »
Thanks for all the suggestions.

I also just heard through the grapevine that Aajonus Vonderplanitz eats a few raw eggs before and after a cooked meal.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2010, 05:03:52 am »
I mostly keep completely cooked or raw ZC days. For example, one day's meal will be raw ground beef and raw bone marrow. Another day will be cooked lamb and cooked eggs. I don't like mixing raw meat and cooked meat, though I am fine having cooked eggs with either.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2010, 08:57:31 pm »
When people on this forum would say they feel sick after eating cooked food, i thought they were just being elitist. After 5 weeks of 100% raw, close to RZC, i was offered a Mars bar, i declined but the fucker insisted so i took it and ate half of it. And as a result, i've been having a slight stomach ache for the last 12 hours, i can't imagine what would've been the effect of a big, cooked meal.

I'm not sure how in the future i will deal with the pressure of eating cooked meal with other people, that's gonna be a nightmare.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2010, 09:54:40 pm »
I'm not sure how in the future i will deal with the pressure of eating cooked meal with other people, that's gonna be a nightmare.

According to my 23 years experience as well as others experience, it’s easy as long as you systematically decline any offer to eat any processed stuff, telling yourself and others you’re doing a limited duration experiment and want to do it seriously. Start with a few weeks, then perhaps 3 months if you choose to still go on. After that 3 months experiment duration is over, you can either stop it, revert to SWD or whatever, or choose to go on for another 3 or 6 months prolongation. Then perhaps decide to continue for a year… and so on if you wish. This way, you feel free and your unconscious pulses to eat the addictive cooked food again are put to the waiting room. After 10 or 20 years of such a strategy, you may no longer need it in case you’ll have been able and still wanting to eat 100% raw.

Thinking and telling others you’re on for the whole rest of your live is a bad idea. They will, and your unconscious will also, restlessly try to get you eating cooked or processed foodstuff. But doing a limited duration experiment 100% raw is easy, socially and for oneself as well.

It gets much more difficult once you start to do some exceptions to your 100% raw decision. What happen generally is a slow drift towards more and more exceptions to finally end up in a total abandon of the raw paleo diet. It may take several years, but we have observed that in so many cases here in Switzerland and in France… Grain, dairy and cooked food are addictive stuff. To stop eating that is alike to stop smoking or stop taking dope.
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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2010, 01:32:52 am »
When people on this forum would say they feel sick after eating cooked food, i thought they were just being elitist. After 5 weeks of 100% raw, close to RZC, i was offered a Mars bar, i declined but the fucker insisted so i took it and ate half of it. And as a result, i've been having a slight stomach ache for the last 12 hours, i can't imagine what would've been the effect of a big, cooked meal.

I'm not sure how in the future i will deal with the pressure of eating cooked meal with other people, that's gonna be a nightmare.

Lol. There is no way you can compare junk food, which I am surprised you ate out of peer pressure, to lightly cooked pork, lamb or beef, unseasoned, no sides.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2010, 04:51:32 am »
Lol. There is no way you can compare junk food, which I am surprised you ate out of peer pressure, to lightly cooked pork, lamb or beef, unseasoned, no sides.

Good point.

And thank you Iguana for your insight.

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2010, 05:06:26 am »
According to my 23 years experience as well as others experience, it’s easy as long as you systematically decline any offer to eat any processed stuff, telling yourself and others you’re doing a limited duration experiment and want to do it seriously. Start with a few weeks, then perhaps 3 months if you choose to still go on. After that 3 months experiment duration is over, you can either stop it, revert to SWD or whatever, or choose to go on for another 3 or 6 months prolongation. Then perhaps decide to continue for a year… and so on if you wish. This way, you feel free and your unconscious pulses to eat the addictive cooked food again are put to the waiting room. After 10 or 20 years of such a strategy, you may no longer need it in case you’ll have been able and still wanting to eat 100% raw.

Thinking and telling others you’re on for the whole rest of your live is a bad idea. They will, and your unconscious will also, restlessly try to get you eating cooked or processed foodstuff. But doing a limited duration experiment 100% raw is easy, socially and for oneself as well.

It gets much more difficult once you start to do some exceptions to your 100% raw decision. What happen generally is a slow drift towards more and more exceptions to finally end up in a total abandon of the raw paleo diet. It may take several years, but we have observed that in so many cases here in Switzerland and in France… Grain, dairy and cooked food are addictive stuff. To stop eating that is alike to stop smoking or stop taking dope.


Thank you so much for your awesome advice. I struggle with food habits/addictions and proceeding RPD as a 3-week plus or 3 - 6 months'-experiment-at-a-time sounds so reasonable, doable, and healthy. :)  When I think I need to eat a certain way "from now on" or for the rest of my life with fewer "mistakes," I do tend to freak out and literally jump off the bandwagon into, like, fried chicken and ice cream... (um, like last night...) -[

I'm doing better not beating myself up, but I know myself well enough that exceptions and "cheats" don't work too well for me. I actually believe in exceptions/cheats as occasional indulgences/treats in moderation for some people, but I don't know how to do that! It may be due to emotional eating and self-destructive tendencies (sometimes I binge not just because the food is so tempting and so good, but to punish myself or be self-destructive - junk food would be my "drug" of choice), but I cannot have just one donut. Or a few or even several chips. Or one pastry. (I have to have 4 donuts, or the whole bag of chips, or 3 pastries. And then more later, because I'm on a roll!)

That's why I've learned that it's way better for me not to have a little exception, because they don't turn out little for me. :D  It doesn't matter that I feel like crap later - if I eat out of stress and to be self-destructive, the hurting part later is part of the process. (It could be part of sometimes low self-esteem... not feeling that one deserves to feel one's best or treat oneself with the greatest care; just the cycle of habit/addiction; and/or avoiding other issues and filling some inner void with food/crap.) 

But I'm still learning to manage it all (besides nutrition, personal development is important to me) and I loved your advice. All of this is a learning experience, I do care about what I feed myself (in all areas of my life), so I will continue to experiment. ;D  It's life, it's an adventure. I feel that I can definitely do "limited duration experiments." That sounds great, doable, self-constructive, and non-overwhelming...  thank you again. :'( (tears of joy and appreciation)

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Re: Actions to take after the occasional cooked meal
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2010, 05:17:19 am »
Thanks a lot for your feedback, Cinna, I'm so glad when I can help !
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