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Water
« on: August 07, 2010, 12:45:58 pm »
Hi
Been reading up on some of Daniel Vitalis's articles on spring water and all of the crap in bottled "spring water." So I decided to find a spring near me and the only one near here use to have nuclear waste buried next to it. Kinda scares me. What do you guys do for water? I was thinking a pitcher filter but they are all plastic and that defeats the purpose.

Also on an unrelated note does anyone know what Daniel Vitalis's diet is?

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Re: Water
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 12:55:50 pm »
    I have to look into that.

    I did just hear of hormesis water from interesting sources.  It's supposed to be incredibly healing and first choice by animals.  I wonder how the power the stones they make they treat the water with.  Maybe it's just mined.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFtXoH0WFQo
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Re: Water
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 07:26:18 pm »

I mostly avoid water and drink kefir or vegetable juices.

That hormesis water sounds good. If you try it and get positive results, let me know.

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Re: Water
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 07:44:50 pm »
I drink mainly alkaline mineral water from plastic bottles. I am totally unconvinced of the notions re plastic. Perhaps if I were drinking from bottles that were years old and left in the sun a lot, then I'd worry but that's not the case.

I also drink tapwater but only when in locations where the tapwater comes straight from mountain-streams and isn't processed re fluoridation/chlorination etc.
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Re: Water
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 08:05:04 pm »
As of now I drink only ice mountain water, even though they are new bottles I do believe they leach some chemicals although in very small amounts. I was thinking of doing what GS does and filter out everything and then add some citrus juice into it so it will have some minerals. Just to let everyone know I will be gone for the next two weeks so I won't be able to respond to any of my threads.
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Re: Water
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 01:38:18 am »
Speaking of water - I watched a gorgeous documentary on water, "Water: The Great Mystery."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5123182744103122879#

It is 1 hr 20 min long, moves at a quick pace, features several different scientists/researchers/specialists (from Nobel laureates to theologists) and high production values, and just ties a whole bunch of different stuff together with water being the common denominator. :)

I recommend watching the video when you have 1 hr 20 min 2 sec to spare, but there is a summary below. (While interesting, the summary doesn't do the documentary justice.)


Summary:

Water: The Great Mystery (Documentary)
 
To see the documentary Water is to wake up to water's profound mystery, interactive sensitivity and miraculous properties.
 
In 1956 in Southeast Asia there was a secret military meeting to develop a bacteriological weapon. The discussion was centered on what lethal properties the weapon should have. All at once, everyone present came down with food poisoning and needed medical attention - even though the only thing they ate and drank that day was water sitting in the middle of the room, which when tested, revealed it had no additives.

Several centuries earlier during the Inquisition a monk was thrown in jail and was served only stale bread and filthy water. Yet after 30 days he seemed healthier than ever. Under torture he revealed that he prayed each day over the water - and each day the rank water became transformed into fresh, sweet liquid.

These two examples suggest that water is an interactive substance that is affected by human emotions. Both stories are cited in Water, a documentary that reveals many startling discoveries about the earth's most ubiquitous natural resource.

Filmmakers Saida Medevedeva and Vasilly Anisimov have taken great pains to create a sense of wonder about a substance that most people have taken for granted. They make it very clear that human beings have squandered water, polluted it and degraded it to the point where it may not be available to large segments of the world's population in the future. In fact, some environmentalists interviewed in the film worry that water may become what oil is today - a resource that is in limited supply and is fought over by nations.

There is a Finite Amount of Water

In the documentary, water researchers from around the world, including Kurt Wuthrich, the 2002 Nobel Prize laureate for chemistry, and the most famous water researcher of recent decades - Masaru Emoto, reveal many startling discoveries about water. For example, scientists report that there is just as much water today as when the earth was born. Yet human beings take water for granted, using it as though there is an infinite supply. It's time to realize, they say, that only one percent of the world's water is potable and that it may not recover from consistent, extensive abuse.
 
Other surprising findings include:

Water has memory.
Gratitude and love are the best ways to revitalize water and maximize its healing and nourishing potential.
People are attuned to the water in the place where they were born, and that people suffering from amnesia have recovered their memories by drinking from their hometown supply.
Animals always prefer spring water to city water.
Holy water, which has been in the presence of prayer, can revive not only sick humans but also dying plants and ailing animals.

After seeing Water, it is impossible to look at water in the same way. The documentary inspires viewers to preserve one of the earth's most precious resources.
 
- Article Courtesy of Sylvia Somerville

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Re: Water
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 05:33:02 am »
Hey Cinna,  Nice video link.  Thanks.  I look forward to watching that when I have some spare time.  BTW, sorry for the slow response on the other thread- have been away from the forum for the last week but will reply asap!  :)

RawZi, interesting link to the Radiation Hormesis.  I must admit I'd never heard of this.  Overall, I'm highly skeptical of these kind of things as they usually turn out to be complete scams.  My skepticism is not distilled when I read in the Protocol on the website that adopting visualisation techniques and smiling will increase the effectiveness of the stones.  Not that I discount these techniques as powerful in themselves.  I would like to be wrong but I smell snake oil!  :)  The video did raise some interesting points though.  I was particularly interested in the link between fungus and cancer which, of course, has also been made by others such as Dr Hulder Clark and Dr Simoncini.


As for water, I currently drink commercial glass bottled mineral water from 'Highland Spring' in Scotland.  I had been drinking the plastic bottled version but it tasted blatantly plastic to me so, unlike Tyler, I am skeptical about chemical leaching from the bottles.  Highland Spring is the only water to be given the UK Soil Association organic kitemark as it's drawn from springs below vast areas of organic land.  But, I still consider this highly inappropriate in terms of ecological footprint and personal cost. 

I have a distillation unit - dislike the taste and suspect boiling damages the water in subtle ways.
I've tried various methods of filtration of tap water and agree with GS that, in overall terms, filtering mains supply using reverse osmosis or similar and then adding minerals eg lemon juice may be the best long approach.  My main concerns with this are potential toxic substances that may not be removed such as hormones and, being rather paranoid, the potential it provides government for mass population experimentation/manipulation!

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Re: Water
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 04:35:00 am »
I only drink Fiji water, although it comes in plastic, it's hard to avoid.. also kind of expensive, but I have always hated the taste of water and never drank it before, but Fiji water actually tastes pretty decent to me, at least good enough for me to drink it without gagging(as all waters have done to me before) and my dad buys them for me just because he's glad that I'm drinking water now.  Also, Fiji water contains silica, which I looked up about it on Wiki and discovered that a study was done that shows that those who drink water with silica in it are less likely to develop Alzheimer's, which is what my grandmother passed away from at a very young age (in her 60's) and which my family has been somewhat concerned that I might develop it as well.. so at least for that alone, Fiji water will still be my #1 choice.
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Re: Water
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 10:07:07 am »
I have a deep-ish well at my house, about 350 feet, and it is into the second largest aquifer in the sate of New Hampshire. The water that comes out is riddled with tannins, sediment and iron, but absolutely free of biological contaminants, VOCs, and other undesirable contaminants. My filtration system (which looks like a municipal water treatment plant in my basement) leaves me with pure delicious water with a pH of 7.4. It has a slightly alkaline pH due to mineral content, which I do not filter out. My sister, who is a big coffee snob, showed up at my house (and got me the same coffee machine as hers as a housewarming gift) brings her snobby beans, and claims my house results in the best coffee she has ever had, and attributes it to the water. It is delicious, refreshing, and flows from every faucet that way in the house.

I bottle it in stainless steel water bottles to take with me. Truly wonderful stuff. If ever in the seacoast area of NH, come on by for a glass.

Since drinking this for the last 20 months, I have found even plain seltzer is now no longer even remotely quenching, whereas it used to be, and Dasani (which we have in the office vending machine) is a sad substitute. I was really bummed when I moved in and learned it was going to cost almost 5 figures for the filtration (and that is with me doing the labor), but in the end, I could not have been happier. Worht every penny.

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Re: Water
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2010, 09:31:13 pm »
Since drinking this for the last 20 months, I have found even plain seltzer is now no longer even remotely quenching, whereas it used to be, and Dasani (which we have in the office vending machine) is a sad substitute. I was really bummed when I moved in and learned it was going to cost almost 5 figures for the filtration (and that is with me doing the labor), but in the end, I could not have been happier. Worth every penny.

You have piqued my interest... What is the unit called and where available?

Ayurveda poo poos carbon filters. I think it is because it takes out everything and changes it slightly in it's electrical or pranic effects. I find it just tastes not so good. Thing is you filter out all this stuff and then it sits in the filter and gets concentrated. However it makes municipal water tolerable. I rarely drink water nowadays.

Having said this, a friend of mine was given a filter made by a Japanese company. (He is an Ayurvedic doctor [Masters of Ayurvedic medicine meaning he had an additional year of Allopathic medicine]) from a recognized school in India. He taught at a University in the US for a number of years. So they gave it to him to try out and possibly they hoped he would recommend to patients. He like the water and I liked it also. The price was quite high even with him getting a better deal ? 5 to 600 Can $

Apparently these units are quite popular in Japan as a form of medical treatment and are actually certified by their government as appropriate. This unit had a carbon filter and another filtration system. After the water was filtered it flowed over a variety of stones.

I used to have access to a spring from the side of a mountain in a remote area of Canada where I lived @ 53 degrees 33 seconds North 64 degrees 05 seconds west. The water was delicious. I used to fill up large glass jugs and bring it home and put it in a porcelain cooler thingy.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2010, 10:19:35 pm »
It's not a unit, it's a system. To clean my water, I have to chlorinate it to remove the tannins, filter the iron, filter the sediment, and then remove the chlorine. The chlorine is filtered with carbon, but I would say it does not filter out everything, as the pH of the water is 7.4 and the TDS is about 110-140. It is delicious.

 

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