Losing too much body fat/weight?

[wodgina]

Girls who do weights look good. The crossfit girls look good.

If I do weights on RPD I stack on the muscle, not bloated muscle but hard lean muscle. Kinda like Sully but with a 2 pack.

[goodsamaritan]

Awesome pics.  Too hot to handle.  

I hope more raw paleo women post their shots.  

I'm sure it will inspire legions of women to join in.  

Something like... the secret diets of sexy women.

I showed your pics and the others' pics to my women employees and they're impressed, they want to go raw.

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seriously, my take on acne, I had cystic acne back in my teens, is of course diet.  Wai diet seems specialized for that.  You might want to give that a try.  Also the usual detoxification stuff like colon cleanse, liver flush - dermatologists know nothing about those.

I don't have any weights to train with, but I do try to do situps, pushups(though I can only do girly ones for now), squats, and other similar working out without weights and without other equipment everyday.  Before this diet I was very weak with very little muscle because I never worked out or did anything strenuous, I always just layed around lazily doing nothing much, probably because I was always tired because of a SAD diet.  I still want to be strong, but I want to build my muscles on raw healthy protein too.  And then after building up some better lean muscle, then I'd like to gain a layer of healthy fat overtop of it.. because I already lost a bunch of fat weight, though I'm sure it was mostly unhealthy fat.
Although really, my first priority is to get rid of my acne.  The look of my body isn't as much of a priority since I still have a decent body even when I eat fully SAD, here's some old pics I found of way before I ever started eating raw, and even before i lost any fat weight, and was eating completely SAD.. fast food and soda and all, with no exercise:

[wodgina]

The perfect waist to hip ratio for women is 0.7.

 I think it might be the same for men but waist to shoulder.

[kurite]

Hot pics wolf!   

[Wolf]

Don't desire big breasts. If your breast are big naturally ok, but if they are small that's good too. Although, breast grow when a woman is lactating of course. Eat healthy and exercise, and except your body for what it is. some have bigger butts naturally, adaptation for storing fat. It is what it is.

You should run up stairs for exercise. make sure you skip a step. Or go walking in the woods. For your arms, you could practice climbing on top of things. that's simple. Climb on top of things, and climb down. Good starter exercise.

I don't want huge breasts or anything, just more normal sized.. at least as big as they were before I lost a bunch of fat weight or just a tiny bit bigger, they were better before though, more like 34B, while now they are back down to 34A with a bit of room.  I don't like being so flatchested.  But I at least accept my body enough that I would never get breast implants.  I just want to make them bigger naturally, and to a natural size.  I like how they look in my picture with the orange shirt, and the white shirt at the bottom, I'd want them more that size again.

I can't run up and down the stairs more than a few times, or else I start to hyperventilate, and skipping a step would only make it worse.  There are no woods around here, so I can't go walking in them.  There isn't much to climb either, other than counters, but those are low and easy and wouldn't help much I'm sure.

[Wolf]

I love having small breasts. About 34B. They are the perfect fit for a man's hands . And I can wear cute, low cut tank tops or go braless. I like being lean and toned all over. I am still feminine and not at all hard, but I have no curvy lumps and find that figure unattractive. I would hate to be hourglass or have more fat and curves.

Bcups aren't that bad, I'd be fine with some full Bcups, but see mine are Acups with a bit of room right now after I've lost weight, and I feel almost flat-chested.  I actually like the size my breasts look when wearing a bra or a slight push-up bra, like in my pics, but when I take the bra's off my breasts are much smaller, and I want them to be the size they look with the bra even without the bra.  I just want to fill them out, not blow them up.  I'd like being somewhat hourglass shaped though, I want to be curvy, not flat as a board.

[Wolf]

Hey Wolf I think how you're thinking is fine. How come you don't want to go walking on your own though? If you just go walking, you can even do short periods of running along the way as well.

Walking alone I feel weird, plus what if something happened to me?  My mom is super paranoid, and rubbed off a bit on me, but she would never want to let me walk by myself, plus my dad is a cop too, so he hears about people disappearing just while walking along, and sees all the murders and rapes and accidents and everything all the time, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to let me walk alone either, and it makes me scared to walk alone.  Especially since I'm mostly more awake during the night, and the daytime is usually way too hot to go walking, so I'd probably mostly go walking at night.  Plus, walking by yourself is lonely and boring.

[goodsamaritan]

I heard one healer speak before that enormous breasts are a product of toxicity, fat storing toxins.
Yours look fine.
They fill out when you bear children.
Then deflate again after they're milked out.

What are you talking about? You look great.
Let's see a recent picture now raw paleo.

[Wolf]

beauty is the eye of beholder. for me, health comes 1st, so, the beauty of the body will ultimately turn on. i see female will become more feminine and man will become more manly (masculine) on a proper diet. we all should appreciate the way we look. everyone is beautiful and attractive. the more you want to know about someone, the more you will like that person. 

after eating raw meat, i also found myself more tuned. i'm also very sedated myself. coming from a culture where woman hardly do anything but cooking and raising children. but i also found the women are more attractive with body fat in some way. bengali women usually have round arms, heavy breast, round butt...etc they are gorgeous! i don't look like them though. people call me skinny.

I do like my body already, well except right now I'm way too skinny because I've been sick and haven't been eating, and I do love personality over looks.  But when you have both the personality AND the looks, it's just all that much better.  I want to be super sexy for my man, too!
I did become more toned after eating raw meat though, even without working out.  And Bengali, funny you should mention that race of all the races in the world, the guy I've been talking to lately is Bengali.  He's not really fat, but he isn't skinny at all either, but even so I actually really like how his body looks.  Or it could just be because I love his personality so much, but still.  I don't know if it's because of his genetics or race or what, or that he eats somewhat healthier than most americans even though he does still eat things like chips and pizza and granola bars, and eats cooked, but his body looks better than any white guys I've seen at the same weight.  My dad is probably the only one who I think looks fine even at a similar weight, and he even eats SAD, but then, he's Columbian lol.  Or maybe I'm just biased because I like these guys, I don't know.  But they don't have rolls or "moobs" which are probably the main turn-offs for me in bigger people.

[Wolf]

Awesome pics.  Too hot to handle.  

I hope more raw paleo women post their shots.  

I'm sure it will inspire legions of women to join in.  

Something like... the secret diets of sexy women.

I showed your pics and the others' pics to my women employees and they're impressed, they want to go raw.

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seriously, my take on acne, I had cystic acne back in my teens, is of course diet.  Wai diet seems specialized for that.  You might want to give that a try.  Also the usual detoxification stuff like colon cleanse, liver flush - dermatologists know nothing about those.

You know those pictures of me are old ones of back when I was eating completely SAD though, right?  lol.  No special diet, ate whatever I wanted whenever I wanted and as much as I wanted.  Not exactly the prime example of a perfect diet, I'd say.   

And yeah, I read about the Wai diet, and I was going to try it next time I could convince my dad to buy me a whole bunch of fruit again.  Even thought of showing him the Wai thing, and see if he'd be okay with letting me eat raw egg yolks and raw fish, though I'd have to try some raw fish first and see if I like it.. I've never eaten seafood much, I hate the fishy smell and don't want to taste it.  if not, then maybe could just go with eating only raw egg yolks and fruit.

[Wolf]

Hot pics wolf!   

Thanks!

I heard one healer speak before that enormous breasts are a product of toxicity, fat storing toxins.
Yours look fine.
They fill out when you bear children.
Then deflate again after they're milked out.

What are you talking about? You look great.
Let's see a recent picture now raw paleo.

Well, like I said I don't want enormous breasts, just want to fill them out a bit.  A full Bcup I would be happy with.  I like the way they look with the bra on, but they look a lot smaller once I take it off.  I want them to look as big as they do with the bra on even when I take it off, and I would be happy.  I liked how they looked before I lost a bunch of fat weight, too, they were nice, so I want to gain that back.

And I do need to take some more recent pictures, but for right now at least, I'm way too skinny and anorexic looking because I've been sick and haven't been eating much.  But I want some new pictures of me after having been eating raw now.  Just been lazy I guess, lol.  And busy with work and school, too.. maybe I could try to take some now though, but I'm so anorexic right now, I don't like it.

[RawZi]

Walking alone I feel weird, plus what if something happened to me?  My mom is super paranoid, and rubbed off a bit on me, but she would never want to let me walk by myself, plus my dad is a cop too, so he hears about people disappearing just while walking along, and sees all the murders and rapes and accidents and everything all the time, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to let me walk alone either, and it makes me scared to walk alone.  Especially since I'm mostly more awake during the night, and the daytime is usually way too hot to go walking, so I'd probably mostly go walking at night.  Plus, walking by yourself is lonely and boring.

    I hope you find people to walk with.  I used to want to jog before dawn each day.  I couldn't find any friends who would do it with me.  They either didn't show up, or they just wanted to walk.  I finally went out running by myself.  A young slim woman alone attracts too many weirdos in the dark.  It depends on where you live too maybe.  I have walked alone at night in recent years.  There was never anyone around to follow me though, different town than where I grew up.

[RawZi]

I heard one healer speak before that enormous breasts are a product of toxicity, fat storing toxins.
Yours look fine.

    I agree.  My breasts were always big, but lumpy etc.  When I detoxed on raw, the only part of me that lost size was my breasts.  I always wished my breasts were small.

[RawZi]

And I can wear cute, low cut tank tops or go braless.

    Exactly.  Yup, tank tops and spaghetti straps, I was always being careful even at 16 that my straps didn't show and that they didn't bounce.  I also remember being only 14 and with my 18 y/o female friend.  We wore sundresses.  Hers looked nice and low cut.  She was flat chested.  My breasts just weren't right for low cut, even then.  Models too, many do not have big breasts. 

    I understand wanting to be a B like everyone else, but I would be very happy if I had little A's.  Maybe look in the mirror, and tell yourself you're beautiful

[RawZi]

i also found the women are more attractive with body fat in some way. bengali women usually have round arms, heavy breast, round butt...etc they are gorgeous! i don't look like them though. people call me skinny.

    I was very skinny, all bones.  One day, maybe age 13, I looked in the mirror.  I had a concave belly etc.  Right then I started eating as much as possible.  I looked at other women.  They were a little round and were sexy.  I was much too thin, except my legs were muscular (arms a little too but legs were big muscles).  Round is feminine.  It took way too much to get me rounded, except the breasts, maybe full of mercury laden lumps.

[RawZi]

I don't want a huge layer of fat or anything, just a nice little layer of healthy fat.  Fat over muscle is fine, in my opinion, I mean, animals in the wild gain layers of fat over their muscle all the time, usually during summer before the lean winter months.  I also believe that the fat gained from a raw healthy diet would be good healthy fat, rather than the fat you see on people eating an SAD diet.

    I agree, it's healthy to have that healthy type fat layer that comes along with species appropriate raw diet.  Even men look good if they have that, to me, almost always did.

[RawZi]

I still advocate weight training for ALL women!

    I agree with that too.  If a woman is pregnant, sure certain exercises may be dangerous, although others are very good and important.  But otherwise it's a great idea for a woman to weight-train.  Strong is healthy.  A person who takes care of their health loves themselves.  To love others, you must also love yourself.

[RawZi]

Women should def have less muscle, and a bit more fat on average than a man in natural circumstances (only considering if both the man and woman are from the same geographical race and lineage)

    In my family the women were more vata/pitta, and the men more pitta/kapha.  The women stayed slim.  The men larger bone-structure, larger muscles, and tended to gain fat if not careful, while the women kept slim.  At least it was like that for a few decades.  We weren't living in the woods though.  Maybe the women would gain fat there and the men not.  I didn't have an ounce of fat anywhere but my breasts till well into my thirties.  Maybe my family did not all have the same heritage as each other though.  Who does? These days there's so much variation, even in small groups.

[Wolf]

Took some more pictures just now:
(I feel so anorexic and boney though, especially in my thighs which use to be a lot bigger.  None of my pants fit me anymore and are super baggy on me, even the ones that used to be super tight on me.  The ones that weren't tight pretty much just fall right off now.)






Don't want to flood the thread with too many pictures, but here's a few more:
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[goodsamaritan]

I see what you mean Wolf.

How long have you been raw paleo?

Here's my theory on this.

I think our body renews muscles, cells, tissues and fats.  So when you switch diets, your body initially may cleanse and get rid of the old body and rebuild anew.  Then you gain weight.

Of course there is the issue of you finding that particular combination of raw paleo diet proportions that work for you.

I noticed I had to up my protein intake and frequency (Aajonus suggested every 5 hours.) I also upped my raw meat intake from 250 grams per day to 600 grams per day and lessened the fat and increased the protein portion.  I overcame the "icky" factor with eating raw meat, so I could eat a lot more raw meat.

Of course you could always keep a food journal and others may chime in and help you out there to gain weight.

Personally, I'm happily gaining weight, now at 128 lbs.  I can feel a momentum building.  I want to reach 140.

[Wolf]

I see what you mean Wolf.

How long have you been raw paleo?

Here's my theory on this.

I think our body renews muscles, cells, tissues and fats.  So when you switch diets, your body initially may cleanse and get rid of the old body and rebuild anew.  Then you gain weight.

Of course there is the issue of you finding that particular combination of raw paleo diet proportions that work for you.

I noticed I had to up my protein intake and frequency (Aajonus suggested every 5 hours.) I also upped my raw meat intake from 250 grams per day to 600 grams per day and lessened the fat and increased the protein portion.  I overcame the "icky" factor with eating raw meat, so I could eat a lot more raw meat.

Of course you could always keep a food journal and others may chime in and help you out there to gain weight.

Personally, I'm happily gaining weight, now at 128 lbs.  I can feel a momentum building.  I want to reach 140.

Hm, I started about over a month ago, maybe about a month and a half to two months by now, I'm not sure, I'm bad at keeping track of time.  But I haven't been eating 100% raw, I recently had to buy new brakes and rotors for my car for $500 and at the same time have been getting less hours at work, so making a lot less money.  I've been really broke, so I ended up eating some pizza which I can get free at work, and frozen dinners I can eat for free because my dad buys them.. so my diet has been rather crazy lately.  But my weight was fine when I was eating enough, even when 100% raw, it's just that lately I haven't been eating a lot and then now I got sick and hardly eating at all for about 4 days, so I've lost a bit more weight.  Also been going home from work early because of being sick, so I'll probably get yet another small paycheck.  I just need to get back to eating more raw foods, and I should gain the weight back.  I just need to start making more money, because if I don't have money for food, then the only alternative is to eat free pizza and frozen dinners and whatever fast food my dad might buy and bring home for me.. or well, actually I just remembered there's a bunch of white rice I can make too actually, but I only like to eat rice if doused and soaking in soy sauce, so I don't know how much better that would be for me than the other stuff.  And it's all still commercial stuff, too, nothing organic or anything.  Best non-raw food I could probably make for myself is some toast on commercial sara lee whole wheat bread with some skippy peanut butter and knott's jelly.  chock full of all the bad stuff anyways, of course.  Unless I want to live entirely on a little fruit and some raw eggs, which are the only raw foods I can convince my dad to buy for me, though he doesn't know I eat the eggs raw, and he also doesn't buy much fruit or eggs at once, and only goes shopping like every few weeks..

But yeah, I read up a lot on that Wai diet because I have really bad acne (I even still get acne while eating 100% raw foods, for 2 weeks I ate 100% raw straight but still got acne) and according to it I should keep my protein intake to a minimum.  Raw meat has never been "icky" to me though, one of the main reasons I'm even trying to do this diet is because I've just always loved eating raw meat, I was just afraid of getting "sick" like everyone told me I would if I ate raw meat, but this site has shown me how wrong that is.  I only found out that this diet could get rid of my acne after I decided I wanted to do it, and then that became my main priority.

I would however, of course, love to eat a diet as close to that of a Wolf's as possible.  =]
Unfortunately I can't get any raw deer meat or anything to try, and such, and I can't afford a bunch of grass-fed beef steaks, and I can't find grass-fed fat or grass-fed marrow bones or grass-fed liver, so yeah.

[goodsamaritan]

What illness are you diagnosed of?
Any drugs?
Maybe if you can get your father on board the raw paleo diet express he'd buy you stuff to help clear your acne.
Unfortunately for me in my old acne days, my mom bought the dermatologist ploy and gave me Roaccutane. (never do this).

FYI wheat is inflammation causing and gluten needs to be stamped out 100%

I just blogged about wheat http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2010/09/19/all-wheat-and-gluten-is-bad-for-eczema-for-psoriasis-for-leaky-gut/

You could show your dad a gluten free website.

Maybe you can get a doc to brand you as gluten sensitive / celiac "disease" so your dad will make the effort of giving you wheat free meals.

[Wolf]

What illness are you diagnosed of?
Any drugs?
Maybe if you can get your father on board the raw paleo diet express he'd buy you stuff to help clear your acne.
Unfortunately for me in my old acne days, my mom bought the dermatologist ploy and gave me Roaccutane. (never do this).

FYI wheat is inflammation causing and gluten needs to be stamped out 100%

I just blogged about wheat http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2010/09/19/all-wheat-and-gluten-is-bad-for-eczema-for-psoriasis-for-leaky-gut/

You could show your dad a gluten free website.

Maybe you can get a doc to brand you as gluten sensitive / celiac "disease" so your dad will make the effort of giving you wheat free meals.

I haven't been to a doctor since I was 16, I'm not diagnosed with anything whatsoever.  I also don't take any drugs whatsoever either, except for some tylenol about once a month if I have to when I get menstrual cramps, only because I get really bad ones that leave me curled up in a ball unable to do anything but cry and squirm and whimper in pain, and then I'll only take 2 - 3 at one time, and only once, not even once those start to wear off, no more after that until next month.  And I always wait first to see if the cramps will be tolerable and I don't need to take the tylenol.  Other than the tylenol for pain, I do not take any sort of drugs whatsoever, not even nyquil if I have a cold, no birth control, no prescriptions, no tobacco, no weed or E or any other illegal drugs, nothing, and never took any of those things in my life except nyquil or other cold medicines when my mom would force me to when I was younger and got sick.  I absolutely hate drugs of any kind, and refuse to take them.

My dad would never go raw, he is very much against me even eating rare steaks, let alone any sort of raw meat, and everytime I even eat a rare steak I get lectures on how it's bad for me, how it could make me sick, and blah blah, he would never eat it himself.  Plus my dad works a lot (he's a cop) and he's lazy and buys fast food and frozen tv dinners just for the convenience, and doesn't even go shopping often.  He also doesn't care as much about his health and already figures he's not going to live to be 100 or anything, so yeah.. I doubt the health benefits would be tempting enough for him to go so much out of his way.

And I know wheat is horrible, I try not to eat it at all, but it's hard when you've got no money for food and your work gives you free pizza.  It's also hard to avoid when it's practically in every single food nowadays.

And I doubt I could get a doctor to brand me as gluten sensitive or anything, since I've never had any sort of problems before from eating wheat products, unless I could just get them to say that eating wheat will make me break out.. which I highly doubt since as far as I know most doctors don't believe that diet and acne are connected whatsoever?  Plus, even when I didn't eat any wheat products for about 2 or 3 weeks, and was 100% raw for 2 of those weeks, I still broke out and was getting zits, so I can't even say wheat is the problem.

[yuli]

Wolf now that I look at your pics I don't think you are too skinny or anorexic, you're just thin, and need some muscle but thats all, oh and you look HOT!

I am 5'9 tall and weigh about 116lb - my body has remained virtually the same from when I was 18y/o, I am going to be 28 soon...
I was always thin even when on SAD (even though I watched not too eat too many sweets and crap) - now on raw paleo I am still as thin but getting more nice lean muscle and I love it! Here's some pics...

Oh and these weren't meant to be sexy pics so sorry for my hairy armpits LOL too lazy to shave...hey I just realized how difficult it is to take pics of one's own body ha ha








Some people say I am too thin, but its usually girls that are jealous, some people may say "thats not healthy" - to them I say, let see if you can out-bike me or out-run me then talk. I have no energy problems and feel great, plus I think most women are not thin enough, and most of the ones that are thin have no muscles, oh well.

[ys]

hairy armpits are indeed very paleo