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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #100 on: September 21, 2010, 11:24:55 pm »
Ever tried liver flushes for acne?

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #101 on: September 22, 2010, 01:28:31 am »
@PaleoPhil: No harm taken sweety! I am a adult woman and feel great with my weight and body type, so I don't take heart to any comments its all interesting and welcome debate to me  ;D ! Maybe some women would not feel healthy in my weight, I would not feel healthy in their weight either, so I can understand everyone has their own way of being. All I wanted was to show that some very SMALL framed and skinny women are natural and real!

No I have never taken a pregnancy to term but I am sure I would have no problem with that (yes I have no PROOF but I listen to my body constantly), feeling physically great and not having any health issues whatsoever, feeling better as I get older at my weight - not worse, having no issues eating ANY kind of raw meat and then all of a sudden mixing random cooked food (call it self-experimentation) and still having no issues (only bloating & bad skin from grains & pure sugar but those are just poisons anyway) all that tells me I'm fine. Some girls at my weight stop getting their period I heard...I have never missed my period at my weight. I have a very high sex drive, and get pregnant when I am literally shown a picture of a sperm LOL, to me thats signs of a healthy woman.
I have no migraines or headaches ever (only had them as a young teen due to horrible eating), not weak, and extremely flexible...can someone with bad joints and bones do splits and go backwards to a bridge from standing position, and I don't even practice yoga (but thinking of starting), I think not! When it comes to overall robustness guys I know consider me a tough chick, definitely not a delicate flower.
Oh and I don't come from a pure and clean and innocent background, I have done more then my share of heavy chemical drugs (I went to raves when I was 14-15 and did e and coke wow weeee), heavy drinking, smoking, and guess what, I am still doing good! I have no addictions, when I stop doing something my body goes ahead and detoxifies the faulty substance in it! As soon as I take care of my body it starts rewarding me, instantly (hence why I love my body).
 
Should I add more muscle, YES! I agree, I am working on it now and it feels good, and will post some progress pics when the time is right. Should I add any fat NO WAY, why? I am not planning to walk across the desert and live off of my 'reserves', I am not planning for winter hibernation - if I had something like that in mind I would then try and get extra fat on. I DO have fat on my ass, and I have plump inner thighs, thats my 'woman fat' and thats all I require for health.

I know there is LOTS of information out there that women need to have a layer of fat but to me the greatest source of information is listening to my body, to how I feel (not to doctors or researchers or their one-minded stupid studies), listening to my own mental state and well being! Any information out there is relative and some people ALWAYS end up proving otherwise.

I feel like a ninja, nimble and light on my feet, I feel like this is how I always want to be...Feeling good in your own body is whats important, not conforming to some general concept of 'wellbeing'! Taking cues from your body and knowing how to give your body what it needs is one of the best and healthiest habits to learn.

@Miles: I know Yuli doesn't agree with me on her being "overly thin" and if she or anyone else wants to suggest a different term that will be more acceptable and still enable discussion, feel free. By including myself in the comment I tried to show I meant no harm, and Yuli seems to feel quite good about herself so I didn't think there would be any harm taken, but if so, then I apologize.

I kinda thought that one of the few benefits of being skinny and being open about it was I could talk frankly with other slim folks about the subject (you know, kinda like Oprah does about overweight--though I know I'm not as warm and fuzzy as Oprah), but guess I overstepped my mark.
I should have been more clear--I meant that it's my understanding that a certain amount of healthy body fat in women is generally regarded as beneficial in terms of both reproductive and general health by both most scientists and all the traditional peoples of the world, not that it's an absolute necessity in order to get pregnant. I'm talking about overall robustness, rather than absolutes, and not just re: pregnancy. If you're interested in more info on it, let me know. If not, that's fine too, and of course I and the scientists and the traditional peoples could all be wrong and there's also an exception to every rule. On the other hand, sharing and considering information can be beneficial at times.
It's comforting to know that you're doing so well, and perhaps your youthful and innocent-looking countenance brought out the concerned father in me and I'm just overreacting to your images. However, aren't you rather young yet for any obvious symptoms of low bone mineral density to appear? Besides, I wasn't trying to imply that you have it already, just discussing that a safety margin of healthy fat in the context of robust health has been connected to lower risk of future development of low bone mineral density and osteoporosis. This happens to be an issue of particular interest for me, because I looked into it before at the request of a female family member who, like me, is very thin (plus I just received another lecture myself from my best friend on the need for me to put on some weight, :D which as usual I agreed with--but easier said than done :D ).
That's excellent--exercise is useful in lowering the risk for both low BMD and sarcopenia in later years. How strong are your connective tissues like your ligaments? If you have no lax joints, that's another good sign.
Yes, and I believe that's true in my case as well, but I also think that it's generally beneficial even for people like me who are genetically thin to add on at least some muscle if not also healthy fat depots (with the science and tradition suggesting that the former is more important, and the latter less important, in males). I can further explain and support what I mean if you're interested.
I believe you, and that's comforting as well, thank you.
If I recall correctly, the information I found suggested otherwise. I can check for what I saved on it and further explain it if you like, but I don't wish to step on toes.

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #102 on: September 22, 2010, 02:16:30 am »
I thought this is a fun, and cute video...maybe it's off topic then I apologize.
These twins are 85 years old!!!
Look at their bodies...this disproves the fact that thin old women are always prone to bone and joint problems, most people 20 years old cant do anything even close to this...and look at how tiny these grannies are.  :o

http://www.youtube.com/v/hSoO8_H-HrY?fs=1&hl=en_US

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #103 on: September 22, 2010, 05:18:32 am »
Yeah, it would probably be better for me to eat a cheeseburger without buns than a pizza.  Or maybe if I do eat pizza, I can stick with the thin crust?

Lol, I doubt you'd like me as much after seeing my acne covered face.
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Wolf, I did the cooked paleo diet for a whole year before raw. It did wonders for my acne. Its not as good as raw, but I think Kurite and others are right, getting rid of most wheat and grain will eradicate much acne.

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2010, 07:52:55 am »
I seem to be doing better on the whole hyperventilation thing after having been eating raw meat and much less grains now, but I still get it.
Well, that's progress any way.

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  Way back in middle school when my parents took me to my doctor to find out why I hyperventilate when I run, the doctor said it was because of the smog.  And it really does get really really badly smoggy here, and I do notice that my hyperventilation seems to get much worse on much smoggier days.  Also, one time when I went up to the mountains and I was for once in clean crisp cool air with no smog at all, and I ran, it was so much more refreshing than usual..
Smog certainly aggravates breathing difficulties but if it were the sole cause, why doesn't everyone who runs in smog hyperventilate? I know three people who used to use Px sinus sprays and appeared to get allergy attacks, sinus congestion and post nasal drip that were triggered by plants, animals and overexertion. Then when they eliminated wheat and went near-Paleo they were able to discard the sprays and now those other things rarely bother them and to a much lower extent. When I cut carbs down to VLC/ZC my sinuses cleared up even more than theirs.

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As far as acne, I've heard so many different causes and reasons for it by now, that really I think that there isn't just one specific cause for acne,
Correct, I think I mentioned 3 potential triggers, with at least 5 different compounds suspected and likely many more.

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but that most people all have completely different reasons for breaking out. ...
In my case the acne didn't clear up completely until I got my diet down to raw meat, raw animal fat and water. Now I can handle a little bit of plant carbs once in a while--especially if I take a small amount of zinc the same day or the next. If I get a zit I take a full or 2x daily dose of zinc for a day or two to get rid of it. YMMV

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But I only ate the dairy because lately I've had stomach pains accompanied with diarrhea which I think may have been some sort of food poisoning, which eating anything seemed to worsen it, so I decided to try raw dairy as a probiotic, and it seems to have helped a lot.  Otherwise I haven't been consuming dairy for a while(other than the few times I eat pizza, but that's just a whole host of problems in itself, like you said).
Yeah, could the diarrhea and stomach pains have been related to the pizza?
 
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Also, when I was on my 2 weeks of 100% purely raw, I still had bad cramps when I started my period.
I might get chewed out for saying it, but in my case rawness only seems to account for about 5% or less of my health benefits, though perhaps that will change over time.  

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And yeah, I know pizza is horrible.  But getting a job somewhere else?  I was unemployed for almost an entire year, looking for a job but no one would call me back or anything,
I don't mean quit your job first--I mean ask discrete friends and family if they know of an opening, or don't eat the pizza, or sell the pizza, or _______.

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I was smoking hookah/shisha [NOT WEED like some people assume, it's like flavoured tobacco]
8) Did you know that Dr. Robert Lustig and others have claimed that smoking has been found to be much less harmful if refined carbs are avoided? However, like any added complexity it adds an unknown amount of risk (could be zero, could be much more).

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However, the store that I am at right now is not the original store that I was hired at, which burnt down 3 days after I was hired there
Hmmmm..., quite the coincidence.

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As for the rice and soy sauce, I think the main part of it I like is the salt, which is the part I'm more afraid of because of my acne,
Interesting, I've never noticed a connection with mine. I was never a big salt eater and actually add more salt to my food now than when I had acne. It doesn't appear to be providing any noticeable benefit either, though.

[qutoe]and for now I'm trying to go with a more Wai diet approach.  Although, Wai said that it's just an increase from your normal intake of salt that will cause temporary acne,[/quote]That doesn't match my case. Wheat and other plant carbs were the key triggers for me and raw red meat and zinc helped. I've replicated the results numerous times and can make zits appear (eat carbs) and disappear (eat a generous portion of red meat or take zinc) pretty much at will now.

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I think I just need to keep experimenting with my diet to see what works best I guess.
Probably so.
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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2010, 08:02:21 am »
Talking about smog and smoking - if you live in smog - smoke weed its a great expectorant!
When I used to smoke to many cigs, weed has always helped me flush out the phlegm!

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"Cannabis is the best natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust, and the phlegm associated with tobacco use.

Marijuana smoke effectively dilates the airways of the lungs, the bronchi, opening them to allow more oxygen into the lungs. It is also the best natural dilator of the tiny airways of the lungs, the bronchial tubes—making cannabis the best overall bronchial dilator for 80% of the population (the remaining 20% sometimes show minor negative reactions).

(See section on asthma—a disease that closes these passages in spasms—UCLA Tashkin studies, 1969-95; U.S. Costa Rican, 1980-82; Jamaican studies 1968-74.)

Statistical evidence—showing up consistently as anomalies in matched populations—indicates that persons who smoke tobacco cigarettes are usually better off and will live longer if they smoke cannabis moderately, too. (Jamaican, Costa Rican studies.)

Millions of Americans have given up or avoided smoking tobacco products in favor of cannabis, which is not good news to the powerful tobacco lobby—Senator Jesse Helms and his cohorts. A turn of the century grandfather clause in U.S. tobacco law allows 400 to 6,000 additional chemicals to be added. Additions since then to the average tobacco cigarette are unknown, and the public in the U.S. has no right to know what they are.

Many joggers and marathon runners feel cannabis use cleans their lungs, allowing better endurance."

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #106 on: September 22, 2010, 07:55:18 pm »
Ever tried liver flushes for acne?

How's your teeth?
- cavities?
- metals?
- fillings?
- root canals?

Ever been to a chiropractor?

Ever done a 3 day apple feast?

Ever done a fast?

I never really tried a liver flush, except once I tried mixing raw egg yolk with some lime, which someone on this site suggested to me once to flush my liver, but it didn't do anything to me at all.  I don't really know any liver flushes though, other than the egg yolk/lime I was told about.

I haven't been to a dentist since I was about 5 or 6 years old.  Never had anything done to my teeth or any problems with them, and they all seem perfectly fine, other than for being a bit yellow and crooked.  They feel even better now though after I've been eating raw, they had started feeling loose for a little while before I started raw, but that's completely gone now and I haven't felt it since.  They only feel good, clean, and strong now.

Never been to a chiropractor.

Might throw in that I haven't been to a doctor since I was 16 either, I hate going to doctors/dentists/etc. and only ever went when I was forced to by my parents.. and never been to any other sort of medical professionals/specialists, either.

Never had an apple feast, as far as I know.. I never much liked apples because I only really love them when they're crisp, crunchy, juicy, and sweet.. But all the apples I was eating were either mushy or dry, and it was gross and turned me off apples.  Probably might have been because they were all commercial apples though, and could have been out of season too, idk.  When I do at rare times get those crisp-crunchy-juicy-sweet apples though, it's absolutely delicious and I love it.

I've fasted a bunch of times, I used to fast naturally every once in a while when I was eating SAD, because sometimes my body would just feel like it didn't need food and I wouldn't feel hungry, so I wouldn't eat for a couple days.  After starting raw, I've only fasted twice, the first time I did it to try and speed up the healing of my acne, and I felt so weak and exhausted from it I decided I wasn't going to do that again unless my body felt like it didn't need to eat.  I think it might have just been because my body wasn't yet used to this raw diet, and that for two it wasn't a time that my body didn't need food, but a time it needed it more, so it wasn't working out good.  The second time, however, was the other day while I've been sick, because whenever I ate anything at all I got diarrhea, or even when I didn't eat anything I was having diarrhea.  I was afraid to eat anything at all so I didn't eat for a day and a half hoping that would help.  I also didn't feel as weak or exhausted fasting this time, as I did last time, even though I'm sick this time.
I've never fasted more than 3 days though.
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #107 on: September 22, 2010, 08:18:49 pm »
Wolf, I did the cooked paleo diet for a whole year before raw. It did wonders for my acne. Its not as good as raw, but I think Kurite and others are right, getting rid of most wheat and grain will eradicate much acne.

Monogamous is very respectable and beautiful. I only want to be with one woman.

Well, I was getting frustrated because even when I completely eliminated wheat/grains for weeks, wasn't even eating any vegetables other than bean sprouts here and there, I was still getting acne.  I mean, I did lose a lot of it, especially off my neck/shoulders/chest/back which was a still a huge relief, but I was still getting some on my face, and also the blemishes/spots left after zits are taking forever to heal, so my face still looks bad with like 50 spots all over it, even if I may only have 4 - 8 actual zits.  I still always have about 3 - 5+ zits on my face at any given time, even while eating completely raw.  But they are smaller now, don't last nearly as long, and don't seem to puff up and inflame or fill with pus nearly as much as they used to, (unless I eat off raw) but I am still constantly getting them.  The spots are still everywhere though, and don't go away very fast at all, some lasting over a month.. especially if a new zit happens to pop up on top of them.. which, since new ones are still always popping up constantly, this happens a lot.

Monogamy is something I highly believe in, especially as I try to emulate the Wolf as much as I can.  I am a virgin, a virgin by choice (for there have been many opportunities for me to lose it) and I shall remain a virgin until I am married.  I have no desire to have sex with anyone other than the one man I wish to spend to rest of my entire life with.
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #108 on: September 22, 2010, 08:47:39 pm »
Well, I was getting frustrated because even when I completely eliminated wheat/grains for weeks, wasn't even eating any vegetables other than bean sprouts here and there, I was still getting acne.  I mean, I did lose a lot of it, especially off my neck/shoulders/chest/back which was a still a huge relief, but I was still getting some on my face, and also the blemishes/spots left after zits are taking forever to heal, so my face still looks bad with like 50 spots all over it, even if I may only have 4 - 8 actual zits.  I still always have about 3 - 5+ zits on my face at any given time, even while eating completely raw.  But they are smaller now, don't last nearly as long, and don't seem to puff up and inflame or fill with pus nearly as much as they used to, (unless I eat off raw) but I am still constantly getting them.  The spots are still everywhere though, and don't go away very fast at all, some lasting over a month.. especially if a new zit happens to pop up on top of them.. which, since new ones are still always popping up constantly, this happens a lot.

Monogamy is something I highly believe in, especially as I try to emulate the Wolf as much as I can.  I am a virgin, a virgin by choice (for there have been many opportunities for me to lose it) and I shall remain a virgin until I am married.  I have no desire to have sex with anyone other than the one man I wish to spend to rest of my entire life with.

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #109 on: September 22, 2010, 09:02:17 pm »
to wolf, raw paleolithic diet is not a magical diet that by one night you can see the changes. just try slowly where you don't need to punish youself do fasting. i'm way older than you and my entire life i know grain as my staple food. i quit  eating grains and other disturbing food by one night. strong will power work for me. still my mom expect me to feed me rice and she is very health cautious woman. she cooks black wild rice and many times in my past she force to feed me (even i'm a married woman). it doesn't get in her head how to live without eating rice. she eats raw meat too. but her progress is barely visible (probably the age also). me and my son are already enjoying the good health.

positive attitude towards life also plays a key role. always have to be with the thought that i'll be cured from anything...  you are such a bright pretty intelligent young woman and you will be the good example for other young girls' in this forum. wishing you all the best.  :)
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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #110 on: September 22, 2010, 09:30:11 pm »
Well, that's progress any way.
Smog certainly aggravates breathing difficulties but if it were the sole cause, why doesn't everyone who runs in smog hyperventilate? I know three people who used to use Px sinus sprays and appeared to get allergy attacks, sinus congestion and post nasal drip that were triggered by plants, animals and overexertion. Then when they eliminated wheat and went near-Paleo they were able to discard the sprays and now those other things rarely bother them and to a much lower extent. When I cut carbs down to VLC/ZC my sinuses cleared up even more than theirs.
Correct, I think I mentioned 3 potential triggers, with at least 5 different compounds suspected and likely many more.
In my case the acne didn't clear up completely until I got my diet down to raw meat, raw animal fat and water. Now I can handle a little bit of plant carbs once in a while--especially if I take a small amount of zinc the same day or the next. If I get a zit I take a full or 2x daily dose of zinc for a day or two to get rid of it. YMMV
Yeah, could the diarrhea and stomach pains have been related to the pizza?
  I might get chewed out for saying it, but in my case rawness only seems to account for about 5% or less of my health benefits, though perhaps that will change over time.  
I don't mean quit your job first--I mean ask discrete friends and family if they know of an opening, or don't eat the pizza, or sell the pizza, or _______.
 8) Did you know that Dr. Robert Lustig and others have claimed that smoking has been found to be much less harmful if refined carbs are avoided? However, like any added complexity it adds an unknown amount of risk (could be zero, could be much more).
Hmmmm..., quite the coincidence.
Interesting, I've never noticed a connection with mine. I was never a big salt eater and actually add more salt to my food now than when I had acne. It doesn't appear to be providing any noticeable benefit either, though.

[qutoe]and for now I'm trying to go with a more Wai diet approach.  Although, Wai said that it's just an increase from your normal intake of salt that will cause temporary acne,That doesn't match my case. Wheat and other plant carbs were the key triggers for me and raw red meat and zinc helped. I've replicated the results numerous times and can make zits appear (eat carbs) and disappear (eat a generous portion of red meat or take zinc) pretty much at will now.
Probably so.

Yes, it's progress, and I think exercising and working my lungs would only help it.

Perhaps I am sensitive to the smog?  If diet only was the case, then why don't people who ate exactly the same as I did when I ate SAD also hyperventilate when they run?  Or if wheat/grains/gluten is the case, then why doesn't the majority of Americans all hyperventilate when they run, since the majority eat a lot of wheat/grains/gluten?

When I run and start to hyperventilate, and I push myself, what I feel is a sharp, searing pain within my chest, within my lungs, every time I inhale.  Each and every intake of breath then becomes painful, and it emanates throughout my entire body, and makes me feel physically ill.  I feel sick and I don't want to move, my breathing becomes too rapid, which only increases the pain in my chest, I become irritated and yet unable to act on it because I cannot move or talk, only cough and gasp for air.  My lungs feel like they want to burst and die, for that would surely be less painful than breathing.
Even when I am not running or doing anything, I could just be laying around in bed, especially on really smoggy days, if I take a really deep breath it causes a slight sharp pain in my chest, and I cannot hold the air any longer and I cough.  When I am in a place with no smog, or on days when there is no smog (such as after a windy day), and I take a deep breath like that, I don't get the sharp pain in my lungs.

As for my acne, I'm sure there's far more than a mere 3 or 5 possible causes for it, for so far everything I have tried has done nothing to rid me of it entirely.  Reduce, yes, very much so, but not eliminate completely.  But the only way I'm going to figure out what causes mine is if I try every different variation of diet that I possibly can.

The diarrhea most certainly could have been related to the pizza, which is already my number one suspect of the cause, but I cannot know for absolutely sure what the exact cause was, and I am sure I will never know.  All I can do for now is try my best to recover, and apparently raw animal foods seem to be the best solution, as they are the only things which have not made it worse, and I will never again mix raw foods with modern processed foods on the same day, nor swallow an entire piece of pizza whole(which I did to impress a guy, stupid I know but the heart is foolish, and that was the last ting I ate[accompanied with some fruit] before I got sick, so it is the most likely culprit I should think).

For finding a new job, not that I thought to quit before finding a new one, I would never do that, but this is the easiest and most stress-free job I've ever had that I'm making the most money in.  Unless my friends or family know of a job where I can get paid about $16 an hour to sit around and do nothing more than maybe sort papers or other menial tasks with no rush and so no stress, and working with really cool people, then I'm not going to quit my job.  Seeing how most of my friends and family are actually unemployed, and/or struggling to make money, I doubt they would reserve a job like that for me and not take it themselves, even if they did have another job already.

The smoking was only temporary, during a time of only a few months when I was depressed and stressed out, and hardly cared what I did to my body.  I do not want to go back to that, for smoking caused far too many problems that I do not want again.  Even if those problems would be eliminated by a grain-free diet, I'm sure it still does nothing to help my breathing problem that I already have.

And yes, my store burning down right after I was hired was quite the coincidence and made me feel bad like I was really bad luck or something.

And I don't know if salt would be something that exacerbates my acne or not, that's just what I read off of Wai, so now I am afraid of it as a possible cause--not the intake of salt itself, but the increase of salt intake from one's normal salt intake, which Wai stated as only a temporary cause.  I don't see how plant carbs could be the only cause for my acne, seeing as how when I was not eating any plant foods whatsoever for a while, I was still getting acne.  Also, while I've been sick, I went four days without eating any plant foods whatsoever, the first day I fasted, the second day I consumed only raw milk, raw butter, and raw salted cheese(in very small amounts), third day I consumed only the same butter and cheese(in very small amounts), and the fourth day I consumed 4 oz of raw organic grass-fed ground beef, the rest of the cheese and some butter, and the next day I woke up with new zits on my face.  Not a single plant food was eaten or even licked or smelt for 4 days, and yet I still got new acne, so what could have been the cause?  The protein in the meat?  The fact that the meat was ground?  The salt in the cheese?  The hormones in the milk/dairy?  The minerals in my Fiji water which is the only water I drink?  Some dirt or dust on my face that clogged my pores?  Old skin cells on my pillowcase?  The chemicals from someone's perfume that I unwittingly inhaled?  The smog in the air?  I don't know.
I could probably not eat anything for a week and thoroughly wash my face every single day, and still get acne, it feels like to me.
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

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« Reply #111 on: September 22, 2010, 09:32:56 pm »
Talking about smog and smoking - if you live in smog - smoke weed its a great expectorant!
When I used to smoke to many cigs, weed has always helped me flush out the phlegm!

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"Cannabis is the best natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust, and the phlegm associated with tobacco use.

Marijuana smoke effectively dilates the airways of the lungs, the bronchi, opening them to allow more oxygen into the lungs. It is also the best natural dilator of the tiny airways of the lungs, the bronchial tubes—making cannabis the best overall bronchial dilator for 80% of the population (the remaining 20% sometimes show minor negative reactions).

(See section on asthma—a disease that closes these passages in spasms—UCLA Tashkin studies, 1969-95; U.S. Costa Rican, 1980-82; Jamaican studies 1968-74.)

Statistical evidence—showing up consistently as anomalies in matched populations—indicates that persons who smoke tobacco cigarettes are usually better off and will live longer if they smoke cannabis moderately, too. (Jamaican, Costa Rican studies.)

Millions of Americans have given up or avoided smoking tobacco products in favor of cannabis, which is not good news to the powerful tobacco lobby—Senator Jesse Helms and his cohorts. A turn of the century grandfather clause in U.S. tobacco law allows 400 to 6,000 additional chemicals to be added. Additions since then to the average tobacco cigarette are unknown, and the public in the U.S. has no right to know what they are.

Many joggers and marathon runners feel cannabis use cleans their lungs, allowing better endurance."

I will not smoke weed, I do not like anything which changes or alters your state of mind and the way you act and think.  That is why I also do not drink alcohol whatsoever, never have and never will.
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

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Re: Losing too much body fat/weight?
« Reply #112 on: September 22, 2010, 10:05:16 pm »
The smog in the air?  I don't know.
I could probably not eat anything for a week and thoroughly wash my face every single day, and still get acne, it feels like to me.

    I've seen it help reduce acne on people when they stop washing their faces.

    I used to get acne very easily.  I did wash my face every day.  I didn't try stopping washing on myself.  One of the things that helped get rid of acne for me was getting BioSET done.  When I passed the interstitial fluid level of the BioSET treatments, my acne went away immediately, so that it didn't matter anymore what I ate, from what I could tell.
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« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2010, 10:14:50 pm »
When I run and start to hyperventilate, and I push myself, what I feel is a sharp, searing pain within my chest, within my lungs, every time I inhale.  Each and every intake of breath then becomes painful, and it emanates throughout my entire body, and makes me feel physically ill.  I feel sick and I don't want to move, my breathing becomes too rapid, which only increases the pain in my chest, I become irritated and yet unable to act on it because I cannot move or talk, only cough and gasp for air.  My lungs feel like they want to burst and die, for that would surely be less painful than breathing.

    Do you eat raw white meat, not marinated, not pre-frozen?  Raw meat helps my lungs and breathing, and raw white meat helps me be calm, as I was not calm as I like to be before.  Marinated meats don't give me the same effects.


The smoking was only temporary, during a time of only a few months when I was depressed and stressed out, and hardly cared what I did to my body.  I do not want to go back to that, for smoking caused far too many problems that I do not want again.  

    I tried smoking.  I felt bad, so I smoked, and when I smoked, I felt nothing.  I preferred feeling nothing sometimes.  I like feeling though, so I don't smoke at all.  I think smoking is bad for people with acne.  I think they have more blackheads and such, the ones that smoke.
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« Reply #114 on: September 22, 2010, 10:24:36 pm »
Many joggers and marathon runners feel cannabis use cleans their lungs, allowing better endurance.
I call bull on this. I've run or jogged with plenty of pot smokers, including my wife, and it definitely impacts their performance negatively.
You can rationalize the benefits of pot in plenty of areas but increasing the ability of your lungs by breathing in smoke is not going to be one of them.

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« Reply #115 on: September 23, 2010, 01:24:24 am »
I call bull on this. I've run or jogged with plenty of pot smokers, including my wife, and it definitely impacts their performance negatively.
You can rationalize the benefits of pot in plenty of areas but increasing the ability of your lungs by breathing in smoke is not going to be one of them.

agreed. I love smoking pot, but I am under no illusions that it does anything genuinely good to my body. Perhaps if I ate it, but it is the whole ritual of skinning up et all. that appeals to me.

Why try to rationalize it? There is a reason it is called "dope". The very same reason that I smoke it. True, it can help people suffering from all kinds of ails and you can make anything from paper to airplanes with it, but those are none of my personal reasons for getting hold of it.

Interresting fact about smog here from Denmark. it is more dangerous to your health running around the lakes in copenhagen than smoking a pack of cigs a day (not that I recommend that mind you).

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« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2010, 01:35:06 am »
to wolf, raw paleolithic diet is not a magical diet that by one night you can see the changes. just try slowly where you don't need to punish youself do fasting. i'm way older than you and my entire life i know grain as my staple food. i quit  eating grains and other disturbing food by one night. strong will power work for me. still my mom expect me to feed me rice and she is very health cautious woman. she cooks black wild rice and many times in my past she force to feed me (even i'm a married woman). it doesn't get in her head how to live without eating rice. she eats raw meat too. but her progress is barely visible (probably the age also). me and my son are already enjoying the good health.

positive attitude towards life also plays a key role. always have to be with the thought that i'll be cured from anything...  you are such a bright pretty intelligent young woman and you will be the good example for other young girls' in this forum. wishing you all the best.  :)

I know it won't happen overnight, I was patient at first because my acne seemed to be progressively disappearing, starting with no more acne on my neck/shoulders/chest/back and then slowly clearing up from my face, but then it seemed to hit a dead end and stop, with no more progression for weeks.
I'm sorry she tries to force you to eat rice.
Thank you though.
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

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« Reply #117 on: September 23, 2010, 02:53:55 am »
    I've seen it help reduce acne on people when they stop washing their faces.

    I used to get acne very easily.  I did wash my face every day.  I didn't try stopping washing on myself.  One of the things that helped get rid of acne for me was getting BioSET done.  When I passed the interstitial fluid level of the BioSET treatments, my acne went away immediately, so that it didn't matter anymore what I ate, from what I could tell.

I rarely ever wash my face.  I never did all my life, and people would say that's probably why I got acne.

what the heck is bioset?
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

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« Reply #118 on: September 23, 2010, 03:13:40 am »
   Do you eat raw white meat, not marinated, not pre-frozen?  Raw meat helps my lungs and breathing, and raw white meat helps me be calm, as I was not calm as I like to be before.  Marinated meats don't give me the same effects.


    I tried smoking.  I felt bad, so I smoked, and when I smoked, I felt nothing.  I preferred feeling nothing sometimes.  I like feeling though, so I don't smoke at all.  I think smoking is bad for people with acne.  I think they have more blackheads and such, the ones that smoke.

I'm afraid to eat raw chicken, and I don't much like poultry anyways.. never tried raw white meat.  My raw beef is unmarinated as far as I know, dunno if it's ever been frozen or not though, probably has.

I only smoked for a little while, I didn't like it, did it to be social and also to relax from the stress from work though.
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

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« Reply #119 on: September 23, 2010, 06:35:25 am »
People here are gently trying to say NO to DOPE.

One of my teachers has a more DIRECT opinion about dope facts for those who care to read his hard core opinion
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« Reply #120 on: September 23, 2010, 11:09:17 am »
I rarely ever wash my face.  I never did all my life, and people would say that's probably why I got acne.

what the heck is bioset?

Washing your face definately does help. All I do is before going to sleep is take two cotton swabs. Soak one in water and clean your face than put witch hazel on the second and clean your face with that. Then just let your face dry. It helps a lot.
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« Reply #121 on: September 23, 2010, 11:20:41 am »
Washing my face or body never helped with my acne. As a matter of fact, a common contradictory advice is to not inflame the acne by washing too much or using harsh soaps. I tried witch hazel and it didn't help either, though an astringent liquid that contained salicylic acid and witch hazel helped a wee bit, but I think it was the active ingredient of salicylic acid that helped, because that would help on its own, whereas witch hazel didn't.

I tried pretty much everything before I finally discovered that cutting out gluten and carbs cleared it up. The second most effective thing for me was zinc, (though it only helped after I cut out the gluten), so it seems that addressing certain nutrient deficiencies may be helpful.
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« Reply #122 on: September 23, 2010, 11:24:11 am »
K... you want a some nice idea for face care when you have acne or are recovering from it and have some scarring and bumpiness.... take raw egg yolks, whisk them with a whisker till frothy, apply the frothy egg white stuff on you face (not close to your eyelid though, of and make sure face is clean before you do this), wait for it to dry and keep it on till your face feels super tight, as long as can or want actually....then wash it off with cool water, carefully dry face....then take raw egg yolks, do a mask with the egg yolk, wait for it to get really dry and tight, then carefully wash it off, take care cause it will really tighten your skin.

The egg whites bleach off the scars and dry out pimples, plus take out blackheads, the egg yolks nourish and put moisture back into your skin!

This is literally the only thing that worked when I used to have acne!

And you also want to get a natural cream and add DMEA powder to it which will rejuvenate damaged skin :o

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« Reply #123 on: September 23, 2010, 01:58:34 pm »
I rarely ever wash my face.  I never did all my life, and people would say that's probably why I got acne.

what the heck is bioset?

    This is the lady that created it: http://www.drellencutler.com/pages/practitioners/
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« Reply #124 on: September 23, 2010, 08:58:17 pm »
When I did start washing my face more, it didn't seem to do much to help clear up my acne.  Changing to raw helped a lot more.

Might try the egg thing, though I don't like to waste my eggs on stuff like that, I'd rather eat them.. but I might try it when I have a day off and don't have to be anywhere or see anyone so I can leave the stuff on my face forever.  Might not be for a while though, since I have work and school everyday, and when I'm not doing those things I'm usually with someone.
Hi, I'm 32, around 5'4" and ~124lb, no real significant health problems other than hyperventilating when running/exercising (that my doc said was because of the smog/asthma), fatigue, and really bad acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/very low carb, but I have had a very hard time finding grass-fed or even organic fats, organs, and marrow. I consume raw dairy, but I do not eat much vegetables.. however, I do love fruit.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak any raw meat eating.

 

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