Bioengineered herpes is good for you

[sabertooth]

This issue is up for debate I'm not sure if most people can truly understand the magnitude of what has already happened, nor are they willing to see whats on the horizon.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/213116-Doctors-Want-To-Give-You-Genetically-Engineered-Herpes

Its already been going on for years; people were contaminated with many varieties of genetically enginered herpes back in the 70s and 80s through "contaminated vaccines".( Does anyone honestly believe that HIV was the only dangerous retrovirus set lose at that time).

These scientist were monkeying around with the genetic codes of everyone who received these shots.


Chicken pox is a naturally occurring version of the herpies virus that most contract when they are children.
If you get it later in life it has the potently to cause all types of permanent neurological damage. Even people who catch it early can still be afflicted with shingles in later life, and have their nerve tissues attacked by the virus that emerges when the immune system is weak.

Starting in the 70s there was an explosion in outbreaks of new varieties, which except for herpies 1 and 2, got very little attention. Its important to remember that these varieties were injected into us along with other poisons ,in vaccines, so everything we have be taught about how a strong enough immune can handle virus doesn't apply


There are numerous varieties of herpies some are natural and some are frankensteinian
(Epstein Barr is of importance to me personally, because most of my health problems emerged after a severe mono infection that left me a convalescent for months)

I have noticed that many others who are infected with herpies 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc...show signs of neurological degeneration; MS ALS, dementia,chronic fatigue, fibromyiaga, chronic back pain,etc... at younger ages

Once it was injected into the populations it was then spreed through sexual contact, thus putting an end to the free love of the 60s

Cold sores are an outward manifestation of a virus that lives in the base of the spine and literally eats away at the nerve tissue. Herpies 1 and 2 may have been around for ages and it is just the poor state of peoples immune systems that triggers the outbreaks

The good news is that my mother must passed on some immunity to type one and two, because I have never had an issue with cold sores, however I did breakout in pox on my neck when I had shingles at age 22(very painfull experience).


The bad news is that the controlling bastards keep rolling out with newer and more damaging versions, before the population can develop immunities to the previous . We cant win , its being done by design.

These new conglomerations have been designed in a way to bypass the immune svstem and piggyback antibodies against our own nerve tissues directly into the brain.
(the technology is available)

Now there are being tested, genetically modified herpies live virus vaccines that are designated to go into the brain and attack certain receptor sites and hormones that deal with anger aggression and anxiety

Well if they do that whats left of the human spirit.( this is dark)

[TylerDurden]

This is a rather controversial topic, so it's moved to the hot topics forum.

[Savage]

Whoever is thinking of that vaccine is an idiot.

There are wars in almost every continent killing thousands everyday, drug wars, gangs, addictive drugs, murders, rapes, robberies, fatal vehicle accidents, diseases cause by things these parasites willingly do, killing each other over $5 bills, sex trades spreading diseases like priests spreading their love to little boys and girls, a corrupt legal system, government and food system in every country.

Not to mention militaries capable of wiping out countries, even the world, mothers/fathers murdering their babies because they feel sad and millions of other fun things they do on their own to themselves and each other every single minute of every single day that is slowly rapidly now ensuring their own self destruction.

How much damage can you actually do with a vaccine like that? An Airborne virus that shows no immediate symptoms but takes years to show while doing irreversible damage would be much better and would be much more eco-friendly than all the plastic wrappers, syringes, bio-hazard boxes, etc.... needed for the vaccine route.

Where's the suggestion box?

[sabertooth]

Its very controversial

What I am saying is that These mutant herpes have already been deliberately realeased as a soft weapon against humanity. 

Now days most people have anti bodies for the varieties of herpes that were released in the 70s and 80s and the initial infection may have been only a slight brain rash barely distinguishable from a flu. But could it be damaging us in ways not easily detected.

And as more of the more sophisticated versions are tested(realeased) There will be signs of damaged the those afflicted, but we have to know what to look for. 

I live surrounded by people already afflicted.
My friend Jamie age 30 crippled with MS
My neighbor Susie demented with MS, has brain plaque
My self, chronic fatigue trouble after Epstein Barr
My brother seizures, My sister diminished intelligence
Does anyone personally know the torment of formulaic.(there are millions of cases)
I could go on forever, with people I personally know that have these flare ups and immune reactions.

My own son had something called transient sinovitous were his hip joint locked up
one of my symptoms when I first got ill was my joints locking up. His eyes would dialate for days and he would act a little loopy, but after a while the symptoms faded.
If you didn't know what you were looking at you would never know it was neurological viral damage.         

I don't know where you all live ,but I can see carnage from my front door.

There are some bad things going on with the younger generation already,the last thing they need is to be exposed to brain eatting herpes.

Too late, The Green light has been given long before they were born.
There is an agenda behind this idiocy, People at the front of this issue must know what they are unleashing.They think they can experiment with live brain eatting viruses on human beings. This has been in the works for years only the failed experiments never see the light of day, while the victims get swept under the rug. Now they think they are close to developing a scourge that will only take out the undesirable traits of the soul, leaving behind a ghost in the machine(they are freaking mad)

I am not maniacal, I know that there are very complex reality's surrounding each case, and that usually other toxins have to be in place before a virus can do maximum damage. So if your body is free from toxic waste it may be immune to some of the harsh cleansing reactions(brain damage) caused by the man made herpes.

[pioneer]

I live surrounded by people already afflicted.
My friend Jamie age 30 crippled with MS
My neighbor Susie demented with MS, has brain plaque
My self, chronic fatigue trouble after Epstein Barr
My brother seizures, My sister diminished intelligence
Does anyone personally know the torment of formulaic.(there are millions of cases)
I could go on forever, with people I personally know that have these flare ups and immune reactions.

Yeah, and the media propagandizes that MS is somehow a genetic issue. That a disease we havent had all throughout evolution, somehow just appears in the last hundred years.

I think that beyond the stupidity, there is just pure evil behind it. I truly think if this is not stopped soon, this will be the revelations. We all are always scared of asteroids, hurricanes, wars, etc... but if a deadly virus is released into the population, it can spread throughout the world within days without anyone knowing about it because most of the time the symptoms dont arise until days after exposed. Imagine if somebody with a virus arrived at the LAX airport (largest airport in the world), infected everyone on the plane, in the airport, then those infected traveled to other states and countries. There would be no stopping it. Cities would suffer the worst. The only people that may escape would be the ones in the rural areas. This would cause global chaos, looting, murdering, etc...

I once read that the invention of the city was the worst idea ever because everything bad comes from cities, pollution, corruption. It also  makes it possible for everyone to be infected quickly.

It is just pure evil. Even the ignorant workers producing these vaccines just for $$$ are evil in my opinion. It is not humane to work for a company which you dont know what their motive is, or has motives that are kept secret.

[pioneer]

Another thing to think about is that a bioengineered diseases/viruses are practically impossible to gain immunity to, unlike natural diseases/viruses. Once the genetics are manipulated, its over, no turning back.

[sabertooth]

I live near ground zero of the H1N1 attack. The University of Kentucky participated in the experimental live virus flu vaccine trails were live H1N1 was realeased. All wards of the hospital were infected, they prohibited children from entering certain areas. Me, My pregnant wife, and my two kids contracted it (confirmed by university doctors( It triggered her into early labor, thankfully everything was alright.)

They are now doing the same live virus trials on these brain eatting herpes mutants.
There isn't going to be any deadly out break, there will just be the everyday aches and pains type conditions that keep us slaves to them. And one day people will wake up with no drive or ambition for all the wonders of life, and never know why they never feel well.

All of this is just considered normal now

[pioneer]

Sabertooth, this sickens me. Are they just doing this testing on vaccines, so those who dont take vaccines will be fine?

I think we should all become a part of the anti vaccine movement. Frankly, Im getting sick of all the bullshit. I am good at speeches too and have done numerous nutrition speeches before. I think this could be my next thing. I watch videos of MLK and his speech all the time and it motivates me. If the negros of alabama, louisiana, and mississippi can overcome, then we should be able to overcome this slavery.

[RawZi]

something called transient sinovitous were his hip joint locked up
one of my symptoms when I first got ill was my joints locking up. ...

Too late, The Green light has been given long before they were born.
... leaving behind a ghost in the machine(they are freaking mad)

.... So if your body is free from toxic waste it may be immune to some of the harsh cleansing reactions(brain damage) caused by the man made herpes.

    I've had my hips and leg joints lock up suddenly, about seven or eight years ago.  They gave me medicine used for osteoarthritis for it.  It went away though.  I had never thought it could be a virus, and I don't think I was very toxic, well I had long fasted somewhat recently.  I did know about JMT already though.  What do you think of that healing technique for it?

[sabertooth]

It was about 7 years ago my hip began to hurt even though I hadn't Injured it, it was around the same time I was sickened.. For months I would have flare ups were my tendons would creak and pop and felt tight. I had it scanned, it showed nothing, I went to a sports medical clinic(nothing).

I finally went to a reflexologist, She was an Indian witchdoctor/chiropractor.

She was good at aligning my back and spine, but the hip pain seemed to be located in the nerves.

The pain started to fade after about four years.

I am not familiar with JMT, though. Can you explain it to me in more detail? I've never tried it; do not currently have an opinion on it.

[sabertooth]

This is my shout in the dark, I heard the most frightening thing over the radio today, this is real

The Department of homeland Security is conducting a vaccine study and asking for volunteers

Who are willing to take three experimental shots for possible weaponized air born bio attack.
[this is happining now}

It was a fear based add played on news talk radio during the Sean hannity show

It stated that the plague that killed two thirds of Europe could be developed into a bio weapon that no one has immunity to, the the Department of Homeland security is conducting a vaccine study and is looking for volunteers to take 3 vaccines over the course of 80 days, and that they would be compensated $$

It made the whole thing seem patriotic, (save the country by taking as protective vaccine against bio weapons)

The problem is that the only people capable of creating such bioweapons are the same people who will be making the vaccines and overseeing this study.

Ive been looking for links to the study,
http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/99885004.html

This is the first time I have ever heard of the department of homeland security advertising to the public, to find guiniepigs to test "bioweapons" This is a sign

Durring the gulf war solider were forced to take anthrax vaccines, against strains of anthrax created by the same organizations making the vaccines(the results were devastating ;gulf war syndrome)

There is no way to prepare a population from this type of attack, any experimental vaccine realeased under that guise will be done so for nefarious reasons.

It may be impossible to tell what is really going on, are we being primed for a future slaughter,or just being kept in ignorance and weakness for our own good : all we can do is stay aware and at the first sign of danger. SCREAM BLOODY MURDER and ride out like Paul Revere.

There is also a voice that calls for caution, we cant get carried away with fear
and start raving like lunatics and be taken for the boy who called wolf.

The threat is real, but hidden in the ignorance of the masses.

[majormark]

It stated that the plague that killed two thirds of Europe could be developed into a bio weapon that no one has immunity to, ...

About the Black Plague, Aajonus claims that it was caused by burning coal inside homes. I tend to agree with that.

"Burning coal also releases other toxic compounds such as various types of mercury, an element harmful to human health."

http://www.ehow.com/about_6594940_burning-coal-vs_-wood.html

[sabertooth]

It was also caused by the consumption of rancid moldy grain , and poor sanitation
These people lived filthy lives and whatever plagued them isn't relevent to this new vaccine,

The plague is a convenient pretext to inject people with poisons(nothing more than using falsified history to scare a dumbed down public.)

Since we did not live in such dire conditions anymore, the organizations who make bioweapons have to introduce artificial agents in order to sicken us.(they will call it whatevery they like ;Spanish flu , H1N1, black death)
 

[wodgina]

Decendents of the the survivors of the black plague have a 1/10 chance of immunity to AIDS. You need two parents with black plague immunity gene.

[RawZi]

    What do you mean, immunity to AIDS?  To a dead immune system?  Or to HIV?  Sometimes it's mycoplasma and not HIV that precedes AIDS arc spectrum illness, do you mean immune to mycoplasma?  Or to all of those?

[wodgina]

Don't know saw a documentry on discovery channel maybe HIV

http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/01/66198

[sabertooth]

yes our genetic codes are living things, that adapt quickly and with intelligence to anything nature puts in its path, we are designed to mutate in order to insure the survival of the species. If a mother can survive the plague and reproduce, not only does the baby receive the antibodies to the plague , but the baby may also inherit epigenetic changes(caused by the mothers fight for survival) that could enhance the immune system in a way that would make them able to resist anything.

What doesn't kill you makes your offspring stronger

Eugenics is rarely looked at in such a positive light and its a shame.

The struggles that an organism undergoes through its life cycle triggers mechanisms hidden within the genetic code that can enhance the genetic expression of proactive traits.(this is my latest theory)
As long as there is no excessive environmental contamination, or nutritional deficiencies that could damage the DNA, then the DNA is free to do its Job.(to ensure survival, using any means necessary.

Don't you see, this explains everything including the origin of human intelligence. The genes don't just randomly mutate they orchestrate changes and conduct repair, pass on adaptions.( Its freaking wonderful )

But we are now corrupting this processes with the advent of genetically modified organisms, and environmental toxins, that prevent the DNA from expressing itself to the fullest.

In the case of genetically modified virus, it actually alters the DNA in ways that aren't beneficial to the organism. This is genetic witchcraft

[pioneer]

yes our genetic codes are living things, that adapt quickly and with intelligence to anything nature puts in its path, we are designed to mutate in order to insure the survival of the species. If a mother can survive the plague and reproduce, not only does the baby receive the antibodies to the plague , but the baby may also inherit epigenetic changes(caused by the mothers fight for survival) that could enhance the immune system in a way that would make them able to resist anything.

What doesn't kill you makes your offspring stronger

Eugenics is rarely looked at in such a positive light and its a shame.

The struggles that an organism undergoes through its life cycle triggers mechanisms hidden within the genetic code that can enhance the genetic expression of proactive traits.(this is my latest theory)
As long as there is no excessive environmental contamination, or nutritional deficiencies that could damage the DNA, then the DNA is free to do its Job.(to ensure survival, using any means necessary.

Don't you see, this explains everything including the origin of human intelligence. The genes don't just randomly mutate they orchestrate changes and conduct repair, pass on adaptions.( Its freaking wonderful )

But we are now corrupting this processes with the advent of genetically modified organisms, and environmental toxins, that prevent the DNA from expressing itself to the fullest.

In the case of genetically modified virus, it actually alters the DNA in ways that aren't beneficial to the organism. This is genetic witchcraft

I understand this sabertooth. However, why arent we more resistant to grains by now? I mean dont we build up antibodies when consuming non paleo foods? That would be indicative of danger, therefore showing that we shouldnt eat those foods. I never thought about that before, but if it is true that could be a useful tool in getting people against them.

[sabertooth]

Ahh, But some groups of people have adapted to grains, I work with a Palestinian who lives off of a diet of 50% grain and he is healthy as a horse. Latin Americans have adapted to beans and corn, fairly well.

Now Most adaptions to these desperation foods are not optimal, but they have ensured the survival of many non paleo groups of people.

We do build up antibodies against the aberrant proteins in plant matterial, and these antibodies are passed down through the generations and are the main agent that triggers these positive epegenetic adaptions.

So yes it is a sign that we weren't designed to ingest grain proteins, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and life finds away to adapt, these antibodies cause such trauma, that the genetic code is forced into making changes that will protect the organism in order to insure survival.
(This is universal in nature and it applies to the whole animal kingdom)

These adaptions do happen and are nothing to balk at, of course Its not Ideal and there are trade offs, the grain adapted people usually age prematurely and have crippling ailments that develop with age after the body losses its ability to cope with the toxic plant material. But by that time they have already done their gentic Job of reproduction.

Now something has been happening to modern people that has reversed the adaption process, which were far from complete, These epegentic adaptions to grains were very a recent and haphazard attempt by our genetic code to survive on the desperation diet of grain

The problem with grain is extremely multi faceted, because many other issues such as genetically modified viral injections, and agricultural poison that distroy the integrity of the immune system are emergent, and  any adaption against the harmfull effects of plant protein are being compromised

We were only in the most primitive stage in the evolutionary adaption to grains when modern industrial poisons were thrown in the mix, it is my belief that it is the accumulative effects of improperly prepaired grain staples, industrial poisons, and toxins in cooked and processed foods that has upset the very, very delicate balance that was allowing for moderate grain adaption.

These epigenic changes that allowed for the utilization of the desperation foods, are the first to deteriorate with the introduction of modern poisons.

Thats why so many modern people cant tolerate any grains even though the have descended from people who ate some grain and lived reasonably healthy lives.

I think allot of the problems people are caused by a combination of genetic damage and food intolerance's that lead to a condition of complete digestive meltdown.

Its mainline fact now that vaccinating has been linked to crones disease, autism, arthritis, MS, lowered intelligence. The man made viral assalts have already happend, and has caused a chromosomal chaos that is reaping havoc on the delicate process of genetic repair and adaption. These poisons aren't protecting us from disease they are obstructing the evolutionary processes that allow us to overcome biological obstacles.

This is sabotage and a direct assalt.
Mother nature has been violated
  

[pioneer]

You're very smart with this stuff sabertooth. You should write a book about human evolution, adaptation, DNA, and degeneration.

These adaptions do happen and are nothing to balk at, of course Its not Ideal and there are trade offs, the grain adapted people usually age prematurely and have crippling ailments that develop with age after the body losses its ability to cope with the toxic plant material. But by that time they have already done their gentic Job of reproduction.
 

Yes, I realize this as well. Just because we somewhat adapted, does  not mean we adapted for the better. Because of our adaption to survive, we have emphasized so much emphasis on survival that we cannot surthrive. I know that whether latino people adapted somewhat to grains, or not, they age prematurely, and grow short, while also facing many reproductive problems as  a result from so much grains, beans, and legumes.

[sabertooth]

I think some of these Revelations could spark a golden age of awareness to the true nature of life and give a refreshing purpose to the old Darwinian school of evolution.  Natural selection theory still leaves many things to be explained , and I wish more research was being done on ways to enhance the expression of positive traits, instead of just studying what causes their distruction.(wrong end of the microscope stupid scientist)

The willingness of the DNA to reform itself under environmental stress,  proves that the will to survive and adapt is built into the structure of life itself. Life does have a spirit that dives it to higher and higher states of being, We are the evidence, human thought being the pinnacle of the earth bound life force   (just my intuition speaking)


I would love to start spreading my theory to whoever will listen, but circumstances limit my productivity as an investigator , biologist , activist ,; I am also a father of three soon to be four and I work as an electrician, and a lover of my woman who thinks I waste my time on this nonsense.

I am epigentialy adapted to this Field of thought, My father has a masters in biology, my one grandmother was an English teacher and my other grandmother is a nurse who really thinks outside the box. I am intuitively aware of many things I am unable to describe and have had a number of life changing experiences that prodded me to seek out and speakout on the great mystery's.

The reality of my own biological existence has turned me into a shell of the man I know could have been, if only allowed to live as my paleo forfathers, I am always aware of this and it hurts to see what is happening before my very eyes to my fellow humans.

Through my trials with illness ,I have been rescued by this diet and the mode of thinking that is the essence of paleo man. Now out of gratitude I wish to spread the good word and help others as the good Samaritan and Taylor have helped myself.

I have now set my guns on exposing everything that is anti paleo, because you cannot achieve an evolutionary peak, while subdued by these modern day scourges, and its my intuition that the genetic alterations that are being forced on us through vaccination, which is at the very top of what is anti paleo, as well as an assalt on the greatespirit itself.( this is the at the heart of my madness)

To introduce cloned sequences  of hybrid viral DNA into my body against my will, is WAR against humanity
 
I think the next epoch of human existence will be severely marked by the ignorance and sickness caused by the artificial genetic alteration of our species.

[pioneer]

Thats great Sabertooth, you should expose the lies as much as you can. As for evolution, I am a bit skeptical on some points, but strongly believe others. I do believe in Darwin's theory of natural selection. I do believe in the evolution within a species. Sure, girraffes necks got longer, humans got taller, brains got smarter. However, what I dont believe in is the evolution when referring to changing species. Some of you will call me a quack, or whatever you want, but there is just no evidence one species just morphs into another species in the animal kingdom. With this lack of evidence from the fossils of other animals, how can we ever think that we were once chimps. Scientists will give you that "our genome is 99.7% monkey" Bullshit all day, but what many dont look at is that we are also 97% dog in genome. Guess we came from wolves too. Anyway, didnt say this to start an argument, just kind of digressed of topic.

[sabertooth]

What also promotes genetic alterations is viral induced genetic mutation, our DNA is marked with redundant chains of genetic gibberish that some believe are left over from viral induced genetic changes that occurred throughout and probably contributed greatly to our evolution. Virus had originally been designed by nature as an agent for positive genetic change, I think AV called them cleansing agents. When genes deteriorate or get damaged I think it causes cellular changes that damage the health of the organism, virus could be a way that life uses to clean up the genetic mess.

The scientific overlords discovered ways of artificially recombining viral RNA from differant animal virus, and in the process has created some real monsters(retrovirus) and unleashed them upon the genetic code of humanity. Our genetic code has undergone a slow natural genesis from the humble beginnings in the primordial soup, until about the age of the genetically modified organism.

I am an advocate of the Ideal that within the past 50 years there has been a war going on within the Genetic code of all those exposed to or injected with these altered retrovirus. There are a number of conditions that can be explained by a process called, Reverse transcriptase, were a retrovirus hijacks the cells RNA and causes it to generate aberrant strands genes in a backward sequence, It is believed that this process is the root cause of autoimmune issues, chronic fatigue, fibromyalga, AIDS,cancer and even in milder cases, vague undiagnosed heath conditions that millions are suffering from. I personally suffered from a severe Epstein Barr reaction( There are records that show the Epstein Barr retrovirus was created in fort Dietrich Bio weapons Lab)It was discovered in 1961 when a doctor was Tring to discover what was causing cancer in the Jaws of Africans(who were vaccinated with experimental concoctions)He found Epstein Barr(herpes 4)

My Lympnodes in my jaw swelled up for 4 months during a major flare up I had.(it was living hell)

Epstein Barr is a retro virus and a member of the herpies virus family. The same family of retro virus  is now being redesigned to specifically target brain tissue and being tested in clandestine studies.

Don't believe it please listen to Leonard, it explains the history of whats happening in detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8df9-oADP_c&feature=player_embedded
Its long winded but very informative and well documented

[miles]

Thats great Sabertooth, you should expose the lies as much as you can. As for evolution, I am a bit skeptical on some points, but strongly believe others. I do believe in Darwin's theory of natural selection. I do believe in the evolution within a species. Sure, girraffes necks got longer, humans got taller, brains got smarter. However, what I dont believe in is the evolution when referring to changing species. Some of you will call me a quack, or whatever you want, but there is just no evidence one species just morphs into another species in the animal kingdom. With this lack of evidence from the fossils of other animals, how can we ever think that we were once chimps. Scientists will give you that "our genome is 99.7% monkey" Bullshit all day, but what many dont look at is that we are also 97% dog in genome. Guess we came from wolves too. Anyway, didnt say this to start an argument, just kind of digressed of topic.

There there, you're not a quack, you just need a bit of 'special' help...Being 97% dog in genome doesn't mean we came from Wolves... That just means we came from the same thing wolves did... We are mostly the same as wolves... We even more recently came from the same thing as living monkeys so we share even more with them.. You can't be a 'Religious Scientist'. As long as you 'believe' and 'don't believe', you can't think freely.

[pioneer]

You can't be a 'Religious Scientist'. As long as you 'believe' and 'don't believe', you can't think freely.

Sure I can, and just because I dont believe in some things does not mean I dont believe in all. Like I said, I totally 100% believe in evolution within a species, but even with religion 100% aside, my logic tells me that we did not come from another species, or any other animal for that matter. If anyone can give me a prime example of a species morphing into another species, please show me. I have debated with many on this topic and no one has ever shown me solid evidence. Dont get me wrong, I used to be a believer of we came from chimps, but after a while, as I became smarter, I realized that it is just theory with very little evidence.