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What to feed my new dog?
« on: November 15, 2010, 04:36:21 pm »
We are getting a dog.
Japanese spitz.
Puppy.
How to adjust him to a raw food diet for dogs?
raw meat, veggies (raw?)

What do you feed your dogs?
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 05:29:13 pm »
Parents don't want me to but you can pretty much feed them hunks of raw meat and raw organs and they will be good to go. You can throw in some veggies if they will eat it to. My dogs absolutely love marrow as well.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 06:19:51 pm »
I dont know much about that breed. As a rule of thumb, as long as what you give him is grain free he will be good. But since its a puppy there may be some special requirements. I would consult someone who know what they are talking about who isnt from teh internetz.

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 06:55:22 pm »
I've recently started feeding my dog raw lamb, raw suet marrow, etc.. I also give him a little bit of fermented milk every day. So far it has reversed his chronic ear inflammation.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 08:36:50 pm »
There seems to be concensus among mainstream websites that dogs are lactose-intolerant, especially after weaning. Perhaps fermenting the milk makes it easier for the dog to digest, though.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2010, 08:42:47 pm »
I would feed him the BARF diet, MEAT & VEGGIES....

here's a little from their site about puppies
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-The bulk of a puppy's diet should consist of raw meaty bones
-All or most of the rest of their food should also be raw
-Puppies should always be kept a little hungry
-They should never grow at their maximum growth rate
-They should be kept slim, lean and hard. Not roly poly, fat, young puppies
-Puppies should learn to eat everything

"

When I get a puppy I'll give it red meat, bones, some fat, and all kinds of vegetables, I'll feed it it almost everything in the meat and vegetable world  :)

Healthy dogs will eat anything though, they have a voracious appetite and will literally inhale food.
You shouldn't have to adjust him, he'll eat anything without issue :P

Watch your dogs body shape, they should be thin yet have muscle tone.
The best way to know how your animal is doing is to keep a close eye on him and examine him often just as a Vet. would.

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I haven't heard about giving fermented dairy to a dog...The thing is some dogs can digest anything, if they can eat shit and be fine they can eat rotten milk too.
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Spitz is so cute and fluffy!!! Please show pics when you get it.
One question I am wondering, isn't it hot where you live? Because you're buying a very furry dog! lol
But then again I heard the big fur protects them from the heat and sun too.... -\

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2010, 09:32:36 pm »
I'm meeting the seller of the pup in 15 hours.
Will post a picture then.

The reason we are getting a japanese spitz is because we had such a good experience with one a few years ago, but she eloped with another dog in the neighborhood and never returned, we never found her.  She was such a good guard dog and very well behaved and tidy, hides her poop in the garden.

We fondly remember that very good dog and we want the same breed expecting the same hassle free utility of such a great guard / bark dog.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2010, 10:02:42 pm »
There seems to be concensus among mainstream websites that dogs are lactose-intolerant, especially after weaning. Perhaps fermenting the milk makes it easier for the dog to digest, though.


Yup, I know. I'm doing it to begin with due to the fact that he's been on a carb diet his whole life. Also as a slight experiment. I don't intend to feed him milk long term.

Anywho, funnily enough he chooses milk over meat any day. But according to your philosophy that is because he's allergic and addicted, right? ;>
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2010, 11:24:10 pm »
My dog on my land property doesn't like any veggies or fruits. She only eats animal products, prefferably in a raw state.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 12:18:51 am »
I forgot to mention, even if I would feed my dog various veggies I would add them in MUCH smaller amounts then the meat! It is true that dogs prefer meat much more, but some seem to love grated carrot etc
Maybe its a good idea to give your dog 2 separate plates, one with meat and the other with a smaller amount of grated veggies, and see how much of the veggies it wants to eat, maybe it won't want any but its good to give the dog some choice once in a while. What if your dog breed doesn't want to go ZC, lol  :P Perhaps because dogs are bred by us for so long they have become as varied in their dietary needs as people.

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 12:29:01 am »
We are getting a dog.
Japanese spitz.
Puppy.
How to adjust him to a raw food diet for dogs?
raw meat, veggies (raw?)

What do you feed your dogs?

    I would guess meat, marrow and high meat and water and make sure he can get some grass.

    I only had dogs while vegetarian. They couldn't handle whole milk. They liked spinach, oranges, tomatoes, cucumbers, watermelon and cantelope.   Egg is also good and they liked carrot, nonfat milk, whole fresh goat kefir, parsley and freshly cooked lightly rolled oats.

    They like mango, coconut and lots of things. They're omnivore. Your dog is lucky you eat raw meat. They love raw steaks.  I had one dog that liked to make high country fresh chicken, by catching burying eating later.

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 01:36:49 am »
I'm certainly no expert but my friend's dog will not let anyone near her bones. Sweetest dog in the world till you approach them bones. Then she starts to growl.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 04:49:31 am »
We are getting a dog.
Japanese spitz.
Puppy.
How to adjust him to a raw food diet for dogs?
raw meat, veggies (raw?)

What do you feed your dogs?
Is that a small dog? I guess the best meal would be a whole rabbit. With organs and all. 1-2  meals a day would be best too.


No veggies are needed, dogs eat grass and other things on their own as long as you let thme outside. You could get him some pet grass.


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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 05:14:49 am »
No veggies are needed, dogs eat grass and other things on their own as long as you let thme outside. You could get him some pet grass.
The sign of dog's eating grass, when that dog is not healthy.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 08:20:49 am »
I had an American Eskimo Spitz when I was younger. One of the best dogs we ever had. While he did seem to lack common sense sometimes I was very bright and very loyal. I'd get another in a heartbeat but I'm allergic to the fur.

My wife and I have been talking the past couple days about getting a puppy. I've been wondering the same thing; how to acclimate it to a RAF diet. I think yuli is right though in that a healthy dog will be content to eat good food. Plenty of raw meat and marrow bones with the marrow still in it. Offer up some fruits and veggies that you're having (not not from the table, only in it's dish). Plenty of organs too. I like the idea of sharing some deer brain with a little pup. :)

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2010, 07:58:31 pm »
We got the dog... we named him Snowy!

First meal with me was raw horse heart and fat.

Gallery of pictures:

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2010/11/16/raw-meat-diet-for-new-japanese-spitz-puppy/
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2010, 08:03:54 pm »
We got the dog... we named him Snowy!

First meal with me was raw horse heart and fat.

Gallery of pictures:

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2010/11/16/raw-meat-diet-for-new-japanese-spitz-puppy/

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2010, 11:28:53 am »
We got the dog... we named him Snowy!...

AWWW CUTENESS!!! With all this nice horse meat and fat he will definitely be a happy dog!

But are you sure he's a purebred Japanese Spitz?  -\
The reason I say this is because his ears are floppy, his paw pads are pink and his nose is brown.
Japanese Spitz have black paw pads, a black nose and little triangle ears that stand up.
Like these puppies, check out the ears paw pads and nose colors:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Japanese_Spitz_Puppies.JPG

The sign of dog's eating grass, when that dog is not healthy.

It is true when a dog has a digestion problem he will eat lots of grass to make himself vomit...but some healthy dogs will eat it just cause they like it and not to vomit, so it may be a sign but not necessarily.

...I've been wondering the same thing; how to acclimate it to a RAF diet...

Simple....
Step 1: place RAF into a bowl on the floor
Step 2: place hungry dog in front of bowl
Seriously though, most dogs will eat a bowl of shit if thats what you serve them, they will eat your garbage if they can. Unlike with cats who are way more finicky about their foods.  ;D

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2010, 11:51:30 am »
The sign of dog's eating grass, when that dog is not healthy.
Yeah, I was going to mention that. They sometimes eat plants to make themselves throw up. My sisters dog did that before.

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2010, 12:07:05 pm »
Man, this puppy is small and frail.
Should've gotten one more mature.
All he does is whine and sleep.
I don't think he's strong yet.

Is he pure?  I don't know.
As long as when he grows up he barks and guards our house, then he'll be worth it.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2010, 12:40:36 pm »
Man, this puppy is small and frail.
Should've gotten one more mature.
All he does is whine and sleep.
I don't think he's strong yet.

Is he pure?  I don't know.
As long as when he grows up he barks and guards our house, then he'll be worth it.

How old is your puppy? Once he gets used to being on his own he will stop whining. His own sleeping crate/cage is almost a must have to teach him this. He was probably used to being with his litter-mates and momma, so it will take him time to adjust  ;)

The pureness of the breed only matters is when you want a specific trait of the breed. Otherwise mixed breeds are usually healthy dogs, except you can't predict how they will be when they grow up.

Did you get to meet the puppy's parents? That would give you a good indication of what this one will turn out like. If you haven't yet then I'd ask the breeder about the parents.

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2010, 12:43:14 am »
Was he taken off of his mother's milk too early?
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2010, 01:08:45 am »
the puppy looks aaight he is very cute though  ;D

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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2010, 11:25:32 am »
Was he taken off of his mother's milk too early?

Seems like it.
I took him to the vet for hydration and support.
He's staying there until he recovers.
After that one meal, he has since refused to eat and drink.
He's dehydrated.
And after the first meal with me, he pooped liquidy stool, I count 3 liquidy stools the first afternoon I got him.
Vet said that's not normal, he must have been sick the day I got him.
And he says the pup looks too young, not weaned enough.
The seller said the pup was born September 3, seems that's not true the vet said.

Vet said the anus has blood when he put the thermometer in.
And no worms in the microscope.
His temp is too low 36 degrees celsius only
And he's dehydrated.
And has poor blood circulation.

Ah well, you learn some.
Hope the dog survives.
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Re: What to feed my new dog?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2010, 11:32:21 am »
Oh my goodness that's horrible.. Who did you get it from?
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