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Hello everyone
« on: December 20, 2010, 02:54:10 am »
Hello everyone,

I'm Steve, and obviously new to this forum.  I've been doing cooked paleo for a few months and am thinking of transitioning into raw.  I am a 27 year old police officer and have seen some results from cooked paleo, but I think most of this was mainly from banishing all processed foods from my diet.  I work long days and often do not get the chance to have an actual sit down meal so only having to eat once or twice a day really appeals to me.

I've lost some muscle and gained some bodyfat over the past few years because of a prior work assignment and am trying to get back to my previous body composition.  Cooked paleo only got me so far and I've since hit a plateau.

My interests are exercising (weights and sprinting), fly fishing, hiking, anything nature related, and I'm getting into hunting-finally.  I've recently found a local farmer who raises his own grassfed-organic beef and who can supply anything.  If you're in the central PA area and want his info I'd be glad to pass it along.

I'd like thank everyone in advance for helping me along the way and contributing to a very informative forum.

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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 03:17:03 am »
Welcome to the forum! It must be a bit difficult eating healthily given the awkward shifts you are presumably given, due to your job.

I suppose you already were including high-fat when on cooked-palaeo? That really does help to stave off hunger for longer periods.
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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 03:30:04 am »
Welcome, Steve!

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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 03:59:14 am »
welcome! :)

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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 04:55:14 am »
Welcome to the forum Steve O0

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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 05:34:18 am »
I suppose you already were including high-fat when on cooked-palaeo? That really does help to stave off hunger for longer periods.

Emphasizing fat all the time I don't think is good, letting peoples instincts work I think is better.... 'High-fat' is confusing. If someone's lacking fat they'll naturally look for more... The main food is the meat, and it has fat, and then you can find more fat if you need it.
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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 06:59:39 am »
Emphasizing fat all the time I don't think is good, letting peoples instincts work I think is better.... 'High-fat' is confusing. If someone's lacking fat they'll naturally look for more... The main food is the meat, and it has fat, and then you can find more fat if you need it.

I don't think TD was emphasizing it, he asked if OP had tried a version of cooked paleo that had a good amount of fat...it important to know because you can eat a very low fat version of paleo and be ok, but you may then have to eat more often. When I eat lots of raw roots, fruits and some lean meats or fishes I feel pretty good but I have to eat more often then if I ate a steak with a giant chunk of butter or lard on it for breakfast...
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....but I work at home so I don't care if I have to eat 100 times a day (well you know what I mean), but for Steve its a different schedule...

Since he's a cop and has crazy shifts, it may not be convenient for him to only follow his instincts - and he may have to design a version of his diet that has a longer filling effect.

Steve is your cooked paleo high in red meat and lots of animal fats? If not the more of those you add the less often you'll have to eat IMO.

You said you hit a plateau? For loosing weight? If you want to loose more weight going on raw paleo will definitely help that. I for one can't help but loose weight on raw paleo no matter what I try, and hence add some cooked foods just to slow down my metabolism and because they favor me gaining a nice layer of fat I can use in the winter. But for most people who have lower/normal metabolism and gain weight more easily this is a bliss to be in raw paleo!  ;D

Also you said you lost muscle tone from some work related stuff, this is maybe why you have hit a plateau, you need to pump some iron as they say....  ;) And grow them muscles back! No matter how you eat if you're not getting enough muscles you'll always have some problem or other. With muscles you often will loose the "wrong" weight and gain the "right" weight.

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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 09:54:27 am »
During my cooked paleo time red meat and additional fats via coconut, olive, and cod liver oil were my staple.  Fat is the only thing that keeps me satiated, I crash hard from starchy carbs.

I guess I'll elaborate a bit regarding weight.  I'm actually trying to put weight back on (lean mass) which was lost over the past 3 years.  I was previously assigned to narcotics and have since gotten back into patrol.  It's tough to buy heroin when you look like a gym rat, so I purposefully let myself go.

What I'm curious about is the possibility of less nutrient destruction and better absorption of raw vs cooked meat/fat.  I was eating over a pound of meat a day and supposedly enough additional calories from fats that I should've been putting more lean mass on, but to no avail.

I just ate my first raw meal tonight.  Beef liver and marrow.  I wasn't crazy about the marrow though, any tips on making it more palatable?  I just cut the liver up, gulped it, and chased with water.

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Re: Hello everyone
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 10:36:52 am »
There are 2 kinds of raw marrow. 1 is soft and creamy and very tasty, the other is dry as sawdust and takes a long time to get used to but likely never really enjoy the taste of.From Stefansson's book:- "but the explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson describes two types of marrow, one type from the lower leg which is soft "more like a particularly delicious cream in flavor" and another from the humerus and femur that is "hard and tallowy at room temperatures" (The Fat of the Land, page 27)"

You could also add some raw sauces(raw apple-cider vinegar? etc.) to the very dry marrow.
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