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Vegetable juice question
« on: December 30, 2010, 05:12:22 am »
Would it generally be helpful to drink low sugar raw vegetable juice from stores in glass bottles or juicing it myself? Or do you guys not recommend them in general?
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 05:23:01 am »
I don't drink any juice except very seldom a bit of wine (not recommended) and once or twice a glass of sugar cane juice made front of me in Penang (Malaisia) in 1988... The only suitable drinks IMO are water and coconut water.
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 05:25:30 am »
I don't drink any juice except very seldom a bit of wine (not recommended) and once or twice a glass of sugar cane juice made front of me in Penang (Malaisia) in 1988... They only suitable drinks IMO are water and coconut water.

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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2010, 05:27:09 am »
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2010, 05:29:31 am »
Don't bother re raw veggie-juice. It takes ages to handle(re washing the juicer afterwards mainly) and requires a really expensive juicer if you don't want to waste huge amounts of money buying vast amounts of fruit/veg to get enough juice from a crappy juicer. More to the point, many RVAFers have complained that they got health-problems if they consumed raw veggie-juice for long periods in sizeable amounts. Some claim that juicing veg not only makes nutrients more bioavailable as a result the shredding of cell-walls, but it also makes the antinutrients in raw veg more bioavailable thus causing potential nutritional deficiencies.

IMO, raw freshly squeezed fruit-juice is OK in moderate quantities, though solid raw fruit is , of course, better.
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2010, 05:45:43 am »
I only tried carrot juice for veggies. Apple juice is tasty too. A big mess though and expensive, it's my mom's juicer. Carrot juice can be worth it as a treat, very sweet. All better as a whole food as Tyler mentioned though.

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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 05:51:58 am »
Fruit juices and blended fruits or ground foods can be useful for those with teeth issues. Or missing teeth. Or infants, meat, liver, organs blended  with water can be a good alternative if breast milk is not availible. Juices can be useful.

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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2010, 05:55:35 am »
Fruit juices and blended fruits or ground foods can be useful for those with teeth issues. Or missing teeth. Or infants, meat, liver, organs blended  with water can be a good alternative if breast milk is not availible. Juices can be useful.
Well, except that those who can't tolerate carbs find fruit-juices to be really bad for the teeth.
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2010, 06:08:25 am »
Don't bother re raw veggie-juice. It takes ages to handle(re washing the juicer afterwards mainly) and requires a really expensive juicer if you don't want to waste huge amounts of money buying vast amounts of fruit/veg to get enough juice from a crappy juicer. More to the point, many RVAFers have complained that they cgot health-problems if they consumed raw veggie-juice for long periods in sizeable amounts. Some claim that jucing veg not only makes nutrients more bioavailable as a result the shredding of cell-walls, but it also makes the antinutrients in raw veg more bioavailable thus causing potential nutritional deficiencies.

IMO, raw freshly squeezed fruit-juice is OK in moderate quantities, though solid raw fruit is , of course, better.

Are carrots generally low in anti-nutrients?

I want to avoid fruit for a long while until I become less insulin resistant, if that ever happens.  -\

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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2010, 06:16:38 am »
We follow Aajonus's vege juice recommendations and have no probs. We also drink a fair amount of milk and cream also as per AV's recommendations.

However we bought the good expensive juicer with no regrets.

I cannot tolerate fruit juice period.  My GF can drink a very small amount.

You have to find out for yourself. Every person has their own likes/desires/physiological requirements. Obviously a Sumo wrestler is not going to like what "Twiggy" likes.
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2010, 06:16:48 am »
Are carrots generally low in anti-nutrients?

I want to avoid fruit for a long while until I become less insulin resistant, if that ever happens.  -\


Lower than some other veg like broccoli. Raw solid veg like carrots which are easily digestible raw, are fine. it's difficult to overindulge in them, if they're not juiced.
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2010, 06:58:02 am »
Juicing takes away the fiber from fruit and veggies.

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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2010, 05:52:59 pm »
I like a veggie juice (celery, brussel sprouts, collard greens, kales, whatever greens or vegetables I DON'T generally eat) sometimes, maybe a couple of  glasses every 2 weeks

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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 03:35:16 am »
Vegetables juices are one of the pillars of my present diet. I juice daily, carrots, celery, spinach, orange...etc.

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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 06:42:10 am »
I like a veggie juice (celery, brussel sprouts, collard greens, kales, whatever greens or vegetables I DON'T generally eat) sometimes, maybe a couple of  glasses every 2 weeks
That's OK. It only may become dangerous, according to reports, if one drinks 1 or more glasses a day. In my case, it never got to that point, as I quickly get liquid diarrhea from it as soon as I drink even 1 glass.
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Re: Vegetable juice question
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 09:15:51 am »
Lately I've been eating more vegetables rather than juicing them.

On another note, if you are constipated for a whole week you can drink vegetable juice as a strategy.

 

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