New Daniel Vitalis interview about raw food, evolution..

[TylerDurden]

There is no way for anyone to "prove" anything to you or me or anyone else.
Studies don't mean a damn thing. People are only capable of sharing interpretations.
Take it for what it's worth, there is nothing to accomplish in arguing about someone else's interpretation/claims. I eat raw meat because I love it, not because I am convinced by someone else's research. I have no obligation to provide my reasoning or "proof" to anyone.
Why does it bother you TD? Because people are trusting him and following him word for word. Sheep will be sheep. At least those people are not guzzling fluoride for all of it's "health benefits"

  I agree that DV is "less worse" than many other gurus. What I dislike is the notion that DV is flawless or offers a better diet than ours as several ideas of his would have wrecked my own health if I had tried them in the past. As for studies, I find them very useful actually. Sure, some studies are too vague or focus on the wrong aspects but we have a hell of a lot of decent studies backing  a raw, palaeolithic diet, albeit mostly inadvertently.  And I loathe the sappy New-Age, largely evidence-free approach of people like DV.

[sabertooth]

I think that the real danger in people like DV and AV hogging all the spot light is the fact that they may be the only resources that some people will have to base their diets on , and if those people happen to be intolerant to milk or have other serious issues , then the protocol they try to follow may not give them the best results.

From the mountain view that the people of this forum share, the antics of people like DV seem quaint and novel, but heaven help the fools in the valley that take him too seriously, and have no other resource to balance out the new age nonsense with down to earth proven effective protocols. Thats why its important to build up a thriving paleo culture that is much larger and complete than the visions of the particular gurus.

[Coatue]

I think that the real danger in people like DV and AV hogging all the spot light is the fact that they may be the only resources that some people will have to base their diets on , and if those people happen to be intolerant to milk or have other serious issues , then the protocol they try to follow may not give them the best results.

From the mountain view that the people of this forum share, the antics of people like DV seem quaint and novel, but heaven help the fools in the valley that take him too seriously, and have no other resource to balance out the new age nonsense with down to earth proven effective protocols. Thats why its important to build up a thriving paleo culture that is much larger and complete than the visions of the particular gurus.

Then I guess thank you baby jebus    for this site as i think most people in their beginning "newbie" phase of this diet would easily take everything AV or DV says for fact

[goodsamaritan]

IMHO, Geoff Purcell aka GP aka Tyler should be enshrined like DV and AV.

Enshrined for OPENNESS.

people may not like his criticisms or comments sometimes, but Geoff is a lot more open minded because this open minded forum was his idea, his steering,  his pushing.... wai diet is here, AV primal diet is here, weston price is here, zero carb is here...

And Geoff has been preaching the gospel of raw paleo diet for FREE for a long time.

[TylerDurden]

There is nothing more frustrating or embarassing than to be thought of as a guru or a saint after years of criticising gurus    . I don't even have a philosophy/info of my own, even, as it's all borrowed  from a dozen different gurus like Cordain or Weston-Price or Aajonus etc., or taken from the RVAF dieter masses as a whole.

[sabertooth]

I am kind of surprised not to have more health gurus at least visit here as a resource for personal growth and to learn how to participate in more open minded discussions so as to better spread the word. Are we really that far out in the boondocks that people like Dr. Mercola, or other top ranking nutritional talking heads can't find this place. Or perhaps they have heard faint whisperings of the raw paleo diet underground, but are not willing to seek it out for themselves.

Should we have someone send out some invitations to influential people to take these discussions to a different level?

Or are we content to have a quiet corner with a forum based on regular people who wish to seek out truth of this diet for themselves , without being sold out by shady characters with financial agendas, and wacky ideas. I like the general tone of the forum here and think there are plenty of checks and balances by which one can use to keep from falsely believing that one person has all the answers.

[Sitting Coyote]

I suspect a lot of these diet gurus do come here.  They probably don't sign up to post, they just lurk, or if they do sign up it's not under a name we'd be able to associate with them. 

Think about it.  Their name is their brand name.  If their brand name is associated with a free website, it's lost a lot of its earning potential.  Even if they mine websites like this for their wisdom, they can't be associated with it and still make a living.   

[goodsamaritan]

Sitting Coyote is right on the money about the gurus and the authors.

We are not regular people.
We are special people.
Collectively we make this forum a world treasure.

[wodgina]

So how can I turn my specialnessess in diet into success into other areas GS?

[goodsamaritan]

So how can I turn my specialnessess in diet into success into other areas GS?

I just recently got on rpd (3 years) and being healthy has helped me:

- become more intelligent.
- have the energy to do much more work trying to run my business and my family.
- not get sick
- cure other people, especially my family.

The holy grail is really about how to make tons of money.
Well, we figured out the health puzzle, you and I will figure out the money puzzle... eventually.

Maybe I can export skilled workers to your country?
Since we are an international forum, we could get into import and export.
Business....

[wodgina]

I'm with you there GS, you know I'm working on it