Raw Paleo Parenting Tips and Experiences

[goodsamaritan]

Please share your raw paleo parenting tips and experiences.

I have not been on RPD long enough, but it seems children eat what parents eat.  So if I eat often enough with the children, they get used to the idea that raw fruits and raw meats is the way to go.

They see I don't get sick, so i tell them it is because I eat raw.

My kids are just 7, 5 and 3.

My wife eats raw fruits, raw vegs, but eats only raw eggs and raw fish.  She can't eat raw land animals yet.  But lately, she hasn't been objecting to kids eating raw beef, raw chicken and raw squid.

We have nannies and Filipinos by default eat rice so my predicament is that when I have to go be away, my children by default are given rice by the help.  But I'm working real hard at be present at meal times more often.  My problem is when my kids go to school, the 7 and 5 year old pack lunches and it is usually rice and cooked meat.

I hope fellow parents can share their tips here.

[Squall]

The thought of raising children in the states under a raw animal regimen kinda frightens me actually. Americans (IMO) tend to be overly concerned with what other people are doing and our public school officials can be downright nazis at times. I've read some horror stories in the alternative press regarding school officials basically doing everything they can to preempt parents from raising their own kids. My biggest fear would be the wrong official finding out that my kid eats uncooked animal meat and then getting social workers involved on the assumption that I'm trying to "poison" my kid. Of course its poison to them, because it doesn't meet the established criteria for normal food, which would of course me a quack and a crackpot unfit to rear children. But who knows? I might just be paranoid or something.

[Satya]

The thought of raising children in the states under a raw animal regimen kinda frightens me actually. Americans (IMO) tend to be overly concerned with what other people are doing and our public school officials can be downright nazis at times. I've read some horror stories in the alternative press regarding school officials basically doing everything they can to preempt parents from raising their own kids. My biggest fear would be the wrong official finding out that my kid eats uncooked animal meat and then getting social workers involved on the assumption that I'm trying to "poison" my kid. Of course its poison to them, because it doesn't meet the established criteria for normal food, which would of course me a quack and a crackpot unfit to rear children. But who knows? I might just be paranoid or something.

That's why rpd parenting should include homeschooling or some accepting private school.  Public schools push psycho drugs (forget the correct name off hand) on kids too.  That said, sushi and sashimi are very trendy just now in the states.  Even raw steak strips might be passed off as sashimi in a public school setting. 

[TylerDurden]

The thought of raising children in the states under a raw animal regimen kinda frightens me actually. Americans (IMO) tend to be overly concerned with what other people are doing and our public school officials can be downright nazis at times. I've read some horror stories in the alternative press regarding school officials basically doing everything they can to preempt parents from raising their own kids. My biggest fear would be the wrong official finding out that my kid eats uncooked animal meat and then getting social workers involved on the assumption that I'm trying to "poison" my kid. Of course its poison to them, because it doesn't meet the established criteria for normal food, which would of course me a quack and a crackpot unfit to rear children. But who knows? I might just be paranoid or something.

I think that as long as the parents raise their rpd child without causing them malnutrition or obviously neglecting them in some way, that the authorities wouldn't stand a chance. There've been 1 or 2 cases of Raw vegan parents going to court because their child died of malnutrition and neglect, but many other Raw Vegans who raised their children on a deficient raw vegan diet did not get into similiar trouble because they weren't deliberately starving their children.

Anyway, I know of a number of families in the US who are raising their children on the Primal Diet or something raw and very similiar, and they don't get hassled by the authorities. There was a family called Haigwood who starred on one of the Wifeswap episodes some time back, who all ate the Primal Diet - despite the fact that numerous people phoned the authorities, after the show, to notify them of the Haigwood kids being "abused/neglected etc." as a result of this diet of rotting meat etc., the authorities did absolutely nothing as they said the children were clearly not coerced and quite happy with their situation, as well as reasonably healthy.

[Squall]

... despite the fact that numerous people phoned the authorities, after the show, to notify them of the Haigwood kids being "abused/neglected etc." as a result of this diet of rotting meat etc. ...

LOL ... case in point. I really do wish people would just mind their own business ...

But its heartening to hear that people are still free to raise their children they way they'd like.

[Satya]

LOL ... case in point. I really do wish people would just mind their own business ...

In Texas, people DO mind their own business!  I have lived all over and this state is best in terms of property, individual and parental rights.  Hands down.

[wodgina]

I know here in Australia the situation has to be very bad for the authorities to step in.

If I had kids I don't know whether I would send them to school, only if they enjoyed it and they didn't feed them too much crap and make them get immunized. Some schools don't accept unimmunized kids.

[Sully]

I received a letter saying I had to get immunized or whatever. I checked a spot that said I would not do it because of personal reasons.

[rawrock2]

In Texas, people DO mind their own business!

what about that church bust in Elderado back in May?  :

Homeschooling is the way to go. (seclusion)

[Metallica]

i would never home school my children..


i believe the social environment, school activities (especially sports) is highly beneficial to children

if you force a strict diet onto kids there just going to rebel when they get older..

at home they get good nourishing organic meals (some raw, some cooked), if at a bday party or event they get whatever is served, even if its poor food.

[xylothrill]

i would never home school my children..


i believe the social environment, school activities (especially sports) is highly beneficial to children

if you force a strict diet onto kids there just going to rebel when they get older..

at home they get good nourishing organic meals (some raw, some cooked), if at a bday party or event they get whatever is served, even if its poor food.

Anyone who cares enough to home school their children properly will make sure they're socialized, take feild trips, participate in sports. You don't have to go to school to do those things. Satya does all of that and probably more with her home-schooled children. School is nothing more than a babysitter to some people who couldn't care less about their education let alone socialization. Some schools don't even offer physical education or if they do, it's very limited. But I wouldn't say that people who enroll their children in school don't care. It's a very individualistic type of thing that shouldn't be generalized by making assumptions.

No one should force their children to eat anything cooked or not. Eating, food recognition and taste are all set at a young age for the most part. My siblings and I grew up eating rare meat and none of us decided to rebel and start eating well-done steak because we never developed a taste for it. Older children might have an issue with eating a different diet than they grew up eating but then you offer, educate, and set an example. If you gradually reduce the amount of cooking, they might not even notice the transition. You said yourself that your own kids get some raw food. Do you force them to eat it?

Having a few questions is alright but when you consistently make antagonizing posts that go against what this community is about, it makes me wonder what your agenda really is. These types of ant-raw posts will not be tolerated! This is a community of like-minded people and if you can't fit in, you'll have to go. We hear this drivel almost everywhere else we go and it gets old real quick.

Craig

[William]

We hear this dribble almost everywhere else we go and it gets old real quick.

Craig

I agree.

Um, however, you poked my literacy button - I believe that if you check you should find that it's "drivel", not dribble.

William
Obsessivley

[xylothrill]

I agree.

Um, however, you poked my literacy button - I believe that if you check you should find that it's "drivel", not dribble.

William
Obsessivley

Thanks - noted and corrected!   

[Satya]

But sometimes, drivel is dribbled out by the speaker, with fast flying spit (or is that spittle?)!

[goodsamaritan]

I used to shoot from the hip like Metallica in the past when I was NEVER exposed to home schooling yet.  Then I was exposed with my first born.  Waldorf inspired home schooling.  Now my children go to the big waldorf school.

Today it is my dream to home school my own children and my future grand children.

There are just too much false paradigms being taught to children today.

I just want our tribe to win in this game of life.

Maybe in 10 or more years I'll be trawling RPD boards trying match up my RPD children with other RPD children.  Wouldn't that be cool.

Satya's parenting skills rocks!

[Satya]

Thank you, Edwin.  You know, we parents do the best we can.  We are not perfect, and we do make mistakes along the way.

My sons are both teenage.  When they got to high school level (age 14-18), I gave the choice to go to a large school.  They said no.  Reasons?  Well they were 1) "I don't want to go through major culture shock!" and 2) "We get a better education here."  My sophomore is taking trigonometry this year.  He will have 2 years of calculus, 2 years of physics and a year of general chemistry before he graduates high school.  He wants to study engineering in college, so his college years should be easy for him.

Waldorf schools are excellent.  How many grade levels do they go to?  I remember years ago they covered through 6 or 8th grade.  Perhaps now they have their method for all levels?

[goodsamaritan]

The Manila Waldorf School goes up to the 12th grade.
http://www.manilawaldorfschool.edu.ph/

Of course they're not RPD. 
The school medicine is anthroposophic.
There is an organic market every friday.
They discourage vaccinations.
They teach the relationship between television, commercialism, bad nutrition.

You and your husband must be making good money with minimal time so you have time to teach your kids personally.

[Satya]

That's really a great program in general.  Certainly it must be much better than the "public schools," right?

My husband makes the money, I stay home.  He has very good experience in his field now, so we are comfortable.  We do minor business here and there, but that is very part time, which is great considering the time teaching takes.  My younger son is learning java programming at night from my husband as well, and he wants to get our business going more.  If he could do well for himself being self-employed, that is his desire (and mine too).  And that is good all round as well.

I should have mentioned my older son.  He is on the autistic spectrum, as you may recall.  He went to public school and had such a terrible experience overall in 3 years from pre-k to 1st grade, that I pulled him out and have homeschooled him since that time.  He is also taking trigonometry this year, and does quite well in certain subjects, and poorly in others that involve language and social skills.  Well, he is now beyond the age where the public school would have to teach him.  Plus, with his disability in that kind of environment, he would only ever have achieved a special education diploma, which is not the same as the regular.  Well, he will receive the regular diploma for coursework which is comparable to a public high school, if he passes this year and next in homeschool.

Homeschool may not be for everyone either.  Some kids or adults need different learning environments.  Some parents are perhaps not interested in or otherwise prevented from teaching full time.  But it certainly is an option for many families and can be the best situation in many cases.  Younger kids really need the nurturing of family, and the idea of sending kids off to an institutional setting all day long at ever younger ages is not healthy, imo. 

[Satya]

what about that church bust in Elderado back in May?  :

Homeschooling is the way to go. (seclusion)

Oh, you're right!  The state of Texas really botched that up badly, didn't they?  But in general, unless you are a big polygamous sect somewhere attracting attention, Texans will leave you alone to do what you think is best for you and yours.

[Satya]

Our school mascot, Kato.

[William]

He is also taking trigonometry this year, and does quite well in certain subjects, and poorly in others that involve language and social skills. 

Learning runelore might cure the difficulties with language, maybe even social skills but there is the joke about those who are born to be engineers.

The only decent source I know of for learning runelore is "Teutonic Magic" by Kvedulf Gundarsson, all the others are full of traps, disinformation, misinformation and lies. Not that there aren't traps in any book. Out of print, but available at abebooks.com and elsewhere.

An advantage is that runelore cannot be taught, so will give you some free time.

[Satya]

Learning runelore might cure the difficulties with language, maybe even social skills but there is the joke about those who are born to be engineers.

The only decent source I know of for learning runelore is "Teutonic Magic" by Kvedulf Gundarsson, all the others are full of traps, disinformation, misinformation and lies. Not that there aren't traps in any book. Out of print, but available at abebooks.com and elsewhere.

An advantage is that runelore cannot be taught, so will give you some free time.

Interesting idea, thanks for suggesting it.  I'll look into the book.  My son could read before he started speaking at age 7.  I know this because he learned sign language, and would make the sign for the English language signs he would read periodically.  Presently, it is spoken and some written grammar issues he struggles with.  That said, he writes essays and such (with some help).  He is learning Spanish as well now.