Author Topic: Yo Brits! What is the real story about the London Riots? Looting? Mayhem?  (Read 45341 times)

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Yo Tyler, Miles, and other Brits!

What is with the London Riots? Looting? Mugging people, stealing from people?

Are there just too many hungry, down trodden people there?
Or is it a racial celebration? Planet of the apes?
Those aren't civilized people.
They're animals devolved.

(I have never seen anything like that in my country so I'm thinking it's a racial thing.)

Tell us the real score.
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Basically, these people are just looking to loot and rob, nothing more. The real problem is that the police are greatly handicapped by excessive laws protecting violent criminals. What should have been done years ago was to arm any and all British police with guns and allow them to be as trigger-happy as the LA police, plus tighten up the riot act etc.  Trouble is also, that Cameron has been doing an efficiency drive to reduce the numbers of police officers and police now have to fill out so many forms for every single crime that they have to ignore "minor" crimes like looting and burglary and target  more serious crimes like murder instead.

The French have a very efficient riot police also which sorts out  mobs very quickly.
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Also, unlike the US which has prisons galore and allows lots of prison-overcrowding, the UK has cut down on the number of prisons due to cost and blasted EU-inspired human rights laws protect the guilty more than the innocent, so less over-crowding exists. With so many in US jails, such people are unable to commit crime while in jail, which admirably reduces the crime-rate over there as a result. Plus they had that wonderful zero-tolerance policy in New York which resulted in remarkable successes.
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« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 04:13:30 am by miles »
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right tyler, give cops guns, that's a great idea! how about letting ordinary citizens have guns, duh

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right tyler, give cops guns, that's a great idea! how about letting ordinary citizens have guns, duh
Why not?  If all the peaceful residents in those areas had owned guns, most of the would-be robbers/looters would have been too terrified of doing anything, the few who did loot would get shot dead, thus reducing crime admirably. Of course, one has to implement rules so that one is deprived of a gun-licence as soon as one commits some criminal offence, no matter how minor etc., but that's all that's needed.
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Well, it seems the violence and looting is spreading all over the country. Now, the police are considering the use of plastic bullets, though they still stupidly refuse to use water-cannons.Maybe, after a long time, these morons will eventually get the idea of using real bullets. Then we will quickly see an end to this nonsense.
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Now, the police are considering the use of plastic bullets,
I guessed that would be coming. The British Government used them in N. Ireland when things got out of control there and found that they could be lethal at close range.

In the Chicago riots of 1968, Mayor Richard Daley gave the order to "shoot to kill" arsonists.
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Of course, one has to implement rules so that one is deprived of a gun-licence as soon as one commits some criminal offence, no matter how minor etc., but that's all that's needed.

We have a saying, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will own guns."
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Multiculturalism not working?
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This is no country for young men. The country doesn't have anything for them, the country doesn't like them and wants everyone to be a degenerate sissy, that's why they're angry and don't care about the country, because it doesn't care about them. The spark that ignited the action was a police murder. They need to get rid of machines on farms and let all young men work them instead, and get some wilderness like the USA for them to hunt and stuff.
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I want to blame feminism some how.
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The trouble is that multiculturalism in the UK goes about things the wrong way round. In the US, for example, it's considered appropriate for immigrants to change their first names to Anglo-Saxon ones, regardless of origin, thus making themselves more like everybody else in a way. Similiarly, in Thailand, the numerous Chinese immigrants there were forced to change their surnames into Thai ones, resulting in a more integrated Chinese community in Thailand without endless clashes with the locals etc. In other words, it should be expected of immigrants to adopt the way of life/customs of the resident population rather than the other way round, in order to make integration easier. In Britain, it's the opposite system with sharia law etc. being openly tolerated, which just creates more tension.

One thing I also noticed in Austria was that the richer, more educated immigrants from countries like Turkey or Persia always integrated very easily into Austrian society. The poorer, uneducated ones never bothered to make the effort.
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Why not?  If all the peaceful residents in those areas had owned guns, most of the would-be robbers/looters would have been too terrified of doing anything, the few who did loot would get shot dead, thus reducing crime admirably. Of course, one has to implement rules so that one is deprived of a gun-licence as soon as one commits some criminal offence, no matter how minor etc., but that's all that's needed.

I would count being shot and killed as being "deprived."

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I believe in human biological diversity. It explains what people are too afraid to admit it.
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...In the US, for example, it's considered appropriate for immigrants to change their first names to Anglo-Saxon ones, regardless of origin, thus making themselves more like everybody else...

Maybe 100 years ago, but not today. The only reason the US isn't erupting into this sort of widespread chaotic violence is that, in general, Americans are wealthier than Brits by a smidgeon. Give us a few more weeks or months of recession and watch unemployment rates rise another few percent and all bets are off. The multicultural experiment in the United States is an accident waiting to happen, just like it was in other countries...

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Rioting is a symptom of a problem (oppressive government). But I wouldn't expect the government to solve the problem by becoming less oppressive. The response by those in power will be to pin the blame elsewhere: the failure of feminism, multiculturalism, trade with other countries, etc. By "cracking down" on rioting and the scapegoats for the problem, the government will become even more oppressive, only making the problem worse. If nationalistic solutions are sought out, we will have more military conflicts, unfortunately. I think this is coming, especially when you see that civil unrest seems to be spreading. The United States is approaching the boiling point.

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I believe in human biological diversity. It explains what people are too afraid to admit it.

Egalitarianism As A Revolt Against Nature by Murray Rothbard sums up the view rather well:http://mises.org/resources/3147/Egalitarianism-as-a-Revolt-Against-Nature-and-Other-Essays

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I believe in human biological diversity. It explains what people are too afraid to admit it.
Explain what you mean by that, exactly.


As for egalitarianism comment by the other poster, what mystifies me is the number of retarded socialists/liberals in the world. I mean, anyone even vaguely sentient should be able to grasp the fact that equality does not exist in Nature, except in death. The US constitution should read, instead, " no beings are created equal etc."
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Rioting is a symptom of a problem (oppressive government). But I wouldn't expect the government to solve the problem by becoming less oppressive. The response by those in power will be to pin the blame elsewhere: the failure of feminism, multiculturalism, trade with other countries, etc. By "cracking down" on rioting and the scapegoats for the problem, the government will become even more oppressive, only making the problem worse. If nationalistic solutions are sought out, we will have more military conflicts, unfortunately. I think this is coming, especially when you see that civil unrest seems to be spreading. The United States is approaching the boiling point.
The problem, however, can be listed as  "laziness", "incompetence" etc. Only by making the police stronger will we crush such idiocy. We need tanks and water-cannons and real bullets and so on.
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Maybe 100 years ago, but not today. The only reason the US isn't erupting into this sort of widespread chaotic violence is that, in general, Americans are wealthier than Brits by a smidgeon. Give us a few more weeks or months of recession and watch unemployment rates rise another few percent and all bets are off. The multicultural experiment in the United States is an accident waiting to happen, just like it was in other countries...


Like I said beforehand, if people were forced to integrate, there would be no problems... In other words, plaquards in spanish should be removed etc.
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Explain what you mean by that, exactly.


As for egalitarianism comment by the other poster, what mystifies me is the number of retarded socialists/liberals in the world. I mean, anyone even vaguely sentient should be able to grasp the fact that equality does not exist in Nature, except in death. The US constitution should read, instead, " no beings are created equal etc."
You may be on to something there.... LOL

At least I suppose there is an illusion to that illusory goal in their constitution.  ;D

(BTW I don't have any issues with the US or any other country.)

Funny, the Brits are always held up as the paragons of decency and fairness in the world. On a one to one basis I have not noticed this to be inaccurate.

Did you see the video of the surveillance camera watching a guy helping a wounded guy to his feet and then another guy coming in and stealing from the wounded guy's backpack? hmmmmmmm something's out of whack there.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2011, 02:52:25 am by TylerDurden »
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Why not?  If all the peaceful residents in those areas had owned guns, most of the would-be robbers/looters would have been too terrified of doing anything, the few who did loot would get shot dead, thus reducing crime admirably. Of course, one has to implement rules so that one is deprived of a gun-licence as soon as one commits some criminal offence, no matter how minor etc., but that's all that's needed.
Can't agree there Tyler.

Pass out guns and then you have the idiocy you have in the US where people get in a wee fight after a few beers etc etc and you have an awesome shooting spree egged on by ideological nutbars coming out of the woodwork who would have been restricted previously to standing on a soapbox demonstrating their idiocy with their mouth rather than a volley of lead.

There is a problem in the US with guns. Britain will not be helped with that problem added to their list. Problem is that people with bad tempers and wild imaginations, get to act out their fantasies.

What I see is a failed multi-cultural policy, combined with over-population.
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I want to blame feminism some how.

ROFLMAO


hmmmm somehow I want to believe you.  ;D
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I'm not inclined to blame the feminists. I've found them to be generally harmless, as a group. I prefer to blame the bankers, the lawyers and the liberals.

 

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