Hello. I'm new here. Convince me to eat raw meat

[Sunaj]

Hello.

With so many diet fads out here in the world, what separates a raw meat paleo diet from all the other ones?   raw fruit diet, raw vegan, etc..

Why should I consume raw meat?

I thrive on a half organic and half S.A.Diet.  With the little money I earn from work, i have no choice but to eat fried chicken, home made cheese burgers, oatmeal i prepare here n there,, oodles n noodles, etcc. I only make like 150 a week, and I have a monthly EBT balance of 200 bucks.  I do try though, do eat organic whenever I can. I do a bit of shopping at whole foods, head to the produce section and get a lot of fruits n veggies to make smoothies with. I figure these would be nutrient dense. And I take a food based multivitamin to supplement what I do not get every day.

1. What are the benefits of eating raw meat?
2. Given my budget, how could I get this raw meat and make it last for a month?
3  I have tried raw meat before, and it did not taste good, and on top of that, it made me very sick for days, i did a lot of throwing up, and it was very hard for me to recover and it was not comfortable, at all.. I ate raw beef chuck ( grain fed and something else) ( cant think of it right now). Will I get sick again if I am convinced to indulge?
4. Whenever I go to the meats section at whole foods, I stare at the red bloody meat for a LONG TIME. It looks VERY TASTY but when i have tasted raw meat, it did not taste good. Yes, probably better off with no seasoning but how could I spice it up?

Thanks

[goodsamaritan]

I would not bother to even try to convince you.
Why should I waste my time.

[Sunaj]

very well then...   any more takers?

[miles]

If you're thriving on your current diet, why change anything? Btw the music on your homepage is good.

[Sunaj]

Thanks miles.


Surely many if you would argue agaiNst my  unsustainable eating,  which is what I'm hoping for, other than that,  I keep having this yearning to eat raw meat and I dint know why.

[goodsamaritan]

If you have a craving for raw meat and eating raw meat satisfies you... then you explore that.  This forum and our companion website and my own websites explain why. 

So if you are curious about why raw meat may be good for you then go read up my websites and the people's success stories.

Our diet is no fad, not ever, not by a long shot. 

We are striving to attain original recommended specifications human diet and lifestyle which leads to shining sparkling long lasting health and beauty.

Original specs means raw paleo diet and lifestyle is the oldest running diet in the whole existence of human kind.

All other cooked diets at present and in history are the fads.
 

[Sunaj]

Llo.  Thanks for your response.


I will read up once I get home from work,  but I have two questions..

1.  How much money do you usually spend a month on raw animal?
2.  Do you add any seasoning to your raw meat before consuming?

[cherimoya_kid]

Raw tuna or just fatty raw wild-caught seafood in general is usually easier to enjoy than most raw animal foods. It's worth trying it.  Sometimes you can find a cheap source for it, if you look. 

I don't generally season my raw fish, except for adding a little bit of dulse flakes to it sometimes, if I am eating it cold, straight from the refrigerator.

Let me warn you now...if you troll, I am a VERY nasty person in response to trolling, and I ban vegans and spammers here pretty much every day. I'm not calling you a troll, just letting you know. And, if you get an attitude about this warning, I will consider that to be trolling.  You have to prove that you're worth our time here.  I'm a mod, and that's how it is.

If you really want to try raw meat, it's better and cheaper to get grass-fed meat straight from the farmer.  Farmer's markets are a good place to look.  If you have a car, then you can drive to the farm and get it, in some cases. 

[Sunaj]

Ihhhh man,  raw seafood..  Never tried that .. Heh. :-/


I'm not a troll nor am I trolling,


Hi,  my name is Sunaj,  and I come In peace.

[goodsamaritan]

Llo.  Thanks for your response.


I will read up once I get home from work,  but I have two questions..

1.  How much money do you usually spend a month on raw animal?
2.  Do you add any seasoning to your raw meat before consuming?

I live in the Philippines.

1. Minimum wage earners cannot afford this diet... because real food costs real money.  On the other hand, I have zero medical expenses and I feel great all the time.

2. No seasoning.  Real food tastes great and requires no seasoning.  I season to get the family involved, and for patients, but not for myself.

[raw-al]

If you afford fried chicken you can afford raw chicken.

Raw chicken is not the greatest tasting IMO.

Many people start off by reading one of a number of authors on the subject.

Probably one of the best authors is Aajonus Vonderplanitz. He is an excellent gateway to this eating world. However he is a bit off the wall. Most people agree that his explanation of why raw food eating is a superior and safer practice than eating cooked food is one of the better stories.

He seems to fall down when it comes to specifics, such as he is convinced that everyone in the world should drink milk and other dairy on a daily basis. While this is fine for some people. it is not for others and some people do not fare well on dairy at all and at the extreme end of the spectrum, some have serious issues with it. That you find out on your own. I am one of the "fine with dairy" folks.

Basically on this site the premise of raw paleo is eating raw foods with a somewhat emphasis on eating animal tissue as is presumed to be the diet followed by our ancestors in the paleolithic period.

Cooking destroys a lot of crucial nutrients

Cooking creates byproducts which are not healthy when consumed.

Cooking wastes time and energy

Cooking wastes materials used to make stoves, pots and heating. (energy)

Regarding whether you should be a vegetarian vs meat eater, that is something you have to figure out for yourself. It seems to be more of a proper diet now that I have been eating meat for the past couple of years.

I was a vegetarian for 23 years and was very healthy, however since starting on the raw primal diet, I eat considerably less, my GF is relieved of the 2 hours (minimum) per day of cooking chores, our electric bill is lower, no dish washing/scrubbing, no burnt food, no more gas/bloating etc.

[MoonStalkeR]

You probably won't be able to afford a fully RPD at the moment. Having a raw meat meal once a day, or even once a week would be a major boost. Supplementing your diet with organ meats like raw liver will also be important. Experiment to see how raw dairy and raw organic, "cage free" eggs work for you (I found raw fats to to make a big difference in health)

Ordering from http://texasgrassfedbeef.com is cheap compared to most sources. I'm not sure if it will taste good for you, but the high fat ground beef is affordable and makes a reliable staple food.

Remove all synthetic chemicals, preservatives, coloring, etc. on the SAD part of your diet, if you didn't already.

[eveheart]

I tried many markets with butcher departments (with live butchers, not packaged meats) and finally found one that gets good grass-fed beef at reasonable prices. I buy top round for $5.99/pound and eye of round for $4.99/pound (in California). In my area, that costs less than pre-packaged grass-fed ground beef. I also eat moderate amounts of fruits and vegetables. Never grains or legumes. I'm an older woman, and the improvements in my health have been very satisfying and somewhat miraculous. Sometimes I wonder how it would have been if I began eating this way at a younger age. I am convinced that RPD is a healthy way for me to eat. Maybe I was easy to convince because I was on the verge of total disability.

[raw-al]

Hello.

With so many diet fads out here in the world, what separates a raw meat paleo diet from all the other ones?   raw fruit diet, raw vegan, etc..

Why should I consume raw meat?
Thanks

Where do you live?

[Sunaj]

Thanks for the replies, I live in Durham NC

[Sunaj]

USA

[Dorothy]

Hi Sunaj. Welcome.

Like Raw-al I was a vegetarian and healthy. I ate all organic fruits and vegetables. The one thing I have noticed coming to this diet is that it has radically reduced my food costs. Organic fruits and vegetables are really expensive! Organic nuts and seeds are astronomically expensive. And - the thing is - when you are eating mostly if not exclusively those things you have to eat A LOT of them. Just by adding raw eggs, seafood, meat (and dairy for me at times) my food needs have come down dramatically, my refrigerator space has opened up and I spend a whole lot less time shopping ... and spending.

There's a dude here named Lex that orders a pet food blend of ground meat and organs and eats that exclusively. His food bills are very low indeed - the lowest one can get eating healthy.

Aajanous Voldenplanitz (if I spelled that right) has a recipe book that gives lots of sauce recipes - but I haven't tried them yet. What I find is that if I put a raw egg yolk on on my ground meat with a little salt and pepper that makes it very tasty. You could try that or add just mix in your favorite herbs. Cumin or curry works well if you like those. You could just add chili herbs or you can go Italian with basil and oregano and a touch of olive oil. I make sauces to marinate fish in and make a very simple sauce for raw fish that you might like. Every time I make sauces they are a little different because I'm just used to mixing and never measuring so I'm sorry that I can't give you exact amounts - but you really don't need it. Do you have a health food store where you can buy nama shoyu (raw soy sauce)? If not you could use tamari or even soy sauce (better than what you are eating now). Add in some powdered wasabi/horseradish (I use my own that I make - but you can buy it) and ginger. If you dip your raw fish in that or make it thick you can dab some on each piece it's pretty yummy. Also - I've been finding that a big trick is to get a really super sharp knife and slice your fish/meat extremely thin. This makes it melt in your mouth. If you add a tiny bit of that sauce, a little cut piece of nori seaweed and a piece of avocado it's a delicacy.

The ideas on how to flavor things is long as there are chefs and books on cooking. Learning to work with herbs is an art learned by experience and practice.... but well worth it. If you have a costco or sam's near you they have big jars of seasonings. The herbs can make all the difference. A great many of them also help you to digest your foods. For instance - horse radish will kill parasites and ginger is a "digestive" - helps you to digest.

Money is a common reason given for not eating well - but when it comes down to it - you really can't afford not to eat well.

If you eat some raw animal foods every day your and eat raw fruits and veggies too you will have to eat so much less that your food bills will go down and your health will go up. It might not be like that at first though. At first your body might be really deficient and want a lot of it - but after awhile if you eat that way you will eat much less food and get more out of it.  

The crap you eat now is actually the most expensive way to eat in the long run. Wait until you are really sick from it to find out how much it costs. I have one suggestion: get only grassfed meats and dairy. Then the animal is treated well and fed well and so you will be too. Eat less of these if you need to. If you can afford half a pound of grassfed meat when you could have gotten three buckets of fried chicken for the same price - the half a pound of grassfed is the better deal. Same with chicken. Hard to get good pastured chicken - but that's the way to go. I just eat the eggs from my pet chickens instead. Hefty nutrition that costs very little.

Best of luck to you!

[cherimoya_kid]

Thanks for the replies, I live in Durham NC

I'm from near Winston-Salem.  I actually live in Blacksburg, VA, but I go back to Winston and Greensboro every weekend  to shop and visit family.

I can probably hook you up with some cheap, high-quality raw meat, fish, milk, and fruit in the area. Let me know if you're interested.

[Sunaj]

Hi Sunaj. Welcome.


There's a dude here named Lex that orders a pet food blend of ground meat and organs and eats that exclusively. His food bills are very low indeed - the lowest one can get eating healthy.


Best of luck to you!

thanks for the reply!

where can I get this pet food blend you speak of?

[Sunaj]

I'm from near Winston-Salem.  I actually live in Blacksburg, VA, but I go back to Winston and Greensboro every weekend  to shop and visit family.

I can probably hook you up with some cheap, high-quality raw meat, fish, milk, and fruit in the area. Let me know if you're interested.

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Yes I am  very interested

[CitrusHigh]

I wrote you a big long message sunaj but it did not post when I sent it so I'll abbreviate.

Form good relationships with local farmers via farmer's markets and the weston a price foundation website. Contact your local chapter leader and ask about meat, eggs and dairy on a budget. Also meet your local health food's store butcher and ask them about pastured meats on a budget.

Organ meats and bone marrow are your friends, they are not highly valued in this backwards country and will always be cheaper than the less nutritious muscle meats.

Also offer to work at a local farm that raises meat or dairy animals or egg laying chickens in exchange for food, usually there's someone nearby looking for people wanting to learn and work with a good attitude.

You have to get creative if you want to afford this kind of stuff, you can even on a low budget, but you will have to think outside the box a bit. Good luck!

[Sunaj]

Alright. I don't know of any local farms close by, but there is a Whole Foods Market near me.

[CitrusHigh]

You're going to have to be resourceful sunaj. I wasn't kidding about getting creative. You have the whole world at your fingertips with the web, use it.. however I realize that it may be intimidating if you have no one to guide you so I'll start you off and I'm happy to support you as you look for quality and affordable foods...

http://www.eatwild.com/products/nocarolina.html

The way I found this site was to type in to google "pasture based farms north carolina" though you can substitute NC for any location you want, or you can get more specific by city or county.

Call and talk to these people direct.

[cherimoya_kid]

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Yes I am  very interested

If you can get to Greensboro, Super G Mart has all kinds of fruits, really cheap, and really cheap seafood as well.  There are some local grass-fed beef and lamb farmers too.

As far as raw milk, there are several options.  Private message me directly using the messaging feature on this website if you are wanting raw milk.  I don't post those sources online, since it's technically illegal to sell it for human consumption in NC.

[Dorothy]

Hi Sunaj,

Sorry so long for the reply - I've been away from the computer.

Lex buys the petfood from Slanker's on-line. They now make a "primal ground beef" which is basically the same as the pet food but is processed at the same place that the human grade food is and inspected. Lex says he has no problems with the even cheaper pet food that is not inspected and processed cheaper so is cheaper. Both these ground beefs include organ meats and both are 100% grass-fed.

Here's a link where you will find a price for the primal ground beef. http://www.texasgrassfedbeef.com/beef_cuts_and_prices.htm  The site is an interesting read within itself and it is where I first found out a great deal about meat when trying to find a raw food for my dogs. That website is part of the reason that I am now here on the paleoforum. If you don't know what grass-fed is about the website is a good place to learn why it's so important - at least to me.

Hope you are doing well!