How much raw milk does everyone drink?

[RawZi]

And that is why fish and blubber does me so well and seems to help with the milk craving.

    I was rereading a little we2l book last night, and av recommends fish instead of dairy for some people.

[Dorothy]

I noticed in AV's book that 3/4 of the recipes include dairy Zi. I wish he would make a similar recipe book without the dairy if he thinks fish is better for some people.

[Alive]

I have just found a supply of organic raw milk 5 l per week at $3/l = $15 per week.
It tastes much better than supermarket milk and my son loves it. Right now I'm having homemade raw milk yogurt for breakfast - it tastes a mix of sour milk & yogurt.
They sell the milk as pet food and 'not for human consumption' - luckily I am an animal 

[Dorothy]

I should add an update here in case it is useful to someone.

I've had a fairly clean and successful diet for decades. My bones were always extremely strong - at least they felt that way to me. Never injuries without very rapid and sometimes extraordinary healing. Never did my bones give me an issue.

A few years ago I added dairy to my diet. It was one of the few changes. The grass-fed raw milk that I made into cheese, whey and butter never made me feel bad - only good - at least on a temporary basis. I would go off of it for weeks sometimes - but over the course of a few years it became a general part of my diet - not in excess - just a nice addition.

I not too long ago (in the scheme of things) realized that my bones had become a problem. In exercise my bones would be the first to give out. I was always able to get up and do lots of intense physical labor without any exercise in-between - but I got to the point where I was feeling pain upon exertion in my bones and would get injured.

Tyler posted an article about dairy and I realize that I might have done long-term damage to my mineral balance and hence to my bones even though when I ate dairy I felt good from it generally. So, I gave up dairy. My bones have been getting stronger and stronger from the time I gave it up.

Because my diet had been so clean and basically consistent for decades I was able to evaluate the dairy for me in a way that perhaps few can. It was a clean experiment. I've never had a dairy allergy and when I got into raw grass-fed dairy I thought it was God's gift and I REALLY miss it in terms of taste and variety to my diet - so it's not like I have anything against dairy - actually - I was such a big dairy fan there for those years and still think it has it's place. I just wanted to make sure that people here know what my experience was and that my opinions on dairy have changed.

I am very grateful to this forum for showing me that dairy for me had long-term effects on me that I was not aware of and that in fact, staying away from dairy was and is important for me.

 

[tests]

And that is why fish and blubber does me so well and seems to help with the milk craving.

where do you purchase your blubber from?

[tests]

all forms of dairy, raw etc give me acne. I don't know why that is.

[raw-al]

 varies from 1.5 cups a day to a bit less than a liter a day.

[LePatron7]

varies from 1.5 cups a day to a bit less than a liter a day.

I thought dairy doesn't work for you.

[raw-al]

I thought dairy doesn't work for you.

No, I am a long time user. Pasteurized was a problem.

[RogueFarmer]

A gallon

[On a Quest, you want in?]

Talking dairy before refrigeration, surley all dairy was either fermented or made into cheese. My grandad only drank fresh milk from the udder warm as a little treat before making cheese, never as I drink , they drank about a cup of water a day max and a cup of wine with dinner, pretty basic , live until 80-90 down in the south of Europe eating pasta a bit of pork , some eggs and lamb all cooked, they have strong heritage I assume.
Has any one tried making yoghurt/kefir with there own saliva? So mixing milk a tablespoon or 2 of fresh milk in your mouth and mixing it into the milk you want to ferment ?

[Iguana]

None. No dairy ever since January 1987 and... I 'm fine! Amazing, isn't it?

[On a Quest, you want in?]

None. No dairy ever since January 1987 and... I 'm fine! Amazing, isn't it?

Well going by that, I haven't drank milk for 27 years. Obvs had some cheese on my pasta and pizza but that's it and that's cultural not personal need.
Now I drink it and appreciate the lengths the "old" went to work with these animals, same with eggs and honey.