Well shit, I just deleted everything I had written to you Ty. Sufficed to say, whatever, we're on totally different wavelengths, i get what you're saying, I don't think you're registering my end at all, but that's cool. If I'm to have a future here we'll be agreeing to disagree a lot.
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Cheri, I'm not asking you or anyone else to believe anything, let alone flies manifesting on rock. I'm saying quantum theory ABSOLUTELY allows for any possibility. I mean fuck, if we can't even nail down the position and velocity of an electron then we've got a looooooooooooooooong way to go before we know shit about shit. I mean are you copying this? Quantum physics says that the scientists doing the experiments (the observers) have an impact on the outcome (the observed). Can you follow that to its logical conclusion? It's got several implications. One is that we never really know that the results we're getting or the things we are seeing are real because WE are participating, influencing our reality. Furthermore, that means that anything is possible, the only real limits are the ones we impose. There's nothing new age about that, it's scientific fact, which ought to hit home for you since that is your god.
And oh my un-god, you can't even conceptualize what I'm saying can you? I mean you and I are in two totally different 'realities' lol. Where in the world did you get a fly manifesting god? or any god from?
I merely found Aajonus' claim to be curious, I wanted to know more, the natural place to look for more info is with people in the raw community, which is why I posted the question here and on facebook. In the mean time of course I've been hunting down info on my own using google. I mean, how differently do we have to see the world for you get all of the above out of my simple, innane, harmless little question? The origin of life fascinates me, I don't buy either creation or evolution in their entireties. Obviously the earth wasn't created in 6 days, or any other ridiculous such story, but darwinian evolution doesn't entirely make sense either, and the 'big bang' is a load of bollocks almost certainly. As a tracker I believe that one should be able to track things back to the beginning, that congruency among the concentric rings of the universe' origin is available, you just have to look for it.
But it's all about an empty cup, yours is full, you are sure about things that you cannot prove, which is called faith. The big bang is the most ridiculous and grasping postulation to have ever been conceived and seriously promoted.
Anyhoo, let's be done with this conversation, noone is making any progress nor do I believe some of us have the desire to, you can delete the whole thread if you want, I got what I want and I learned a lot about the dynamics of the ruling class on this forum. You should really get more detailed with your guidelines and forum policies. It is painfully obvious to anyone with eyes that there are rules other than what waungata has posted in the welcome section. You should be very detailed about the fact that you are a group of authoritarians who believe in darwinian evolution and that part of that evolution is that the human is evolved to eat raw and that god doesn't exist. That nothing controversial (as you define it) can be posted here without you guys stopping in to cry foul, and then you should further enumerate what is not controversial so that we can have some inkling of what is ok to post (and believe/espouse). Just be plain about it.
It's ok for you to run your forum exactly as you like, but you're going to continually be experiencing a lot of friction if noone knows what's ok to post and what is considered queer or 'new agey'.
I specifically disclaimed in my initial post, if you didn't have something constructive to say, skip it, obviously you're looking for conflict. You don't think I realize that flies manifesting out of nowhere is a bizarre claim? But so are a lot of other things that have turned out to be true. There is no harm in being open to it, that is entirely different than actually accepting it!
Geez, for a bunch of people who have bucked the established bullshit for a new paradigm, you sure have some rigid views!
