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Offline LePatron7

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pychedelic mushrooms
« on: February 15, 2012, 08:56:24 pm »
I'd like input on raw paleo and a pychedelic experience using mushrooms.

Input please.

Thank you.
Disclaimer: I was told I was misdiagnosed over 10 years ago, and I haven't taken any medication in over a decade.

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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 11:17:17 pm »
Waste of time and damages health but don't let me stop you.

It didn't stop me for the brief period that I partook. Not really any more useful than alcohol. It's a fun crutch, but a crutch nevertheless. Does damage in the same way that cooked food does.
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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 02:04:24 pm »
Boss, when I'm down there in March it's on! Cube season should be in full swing riiiiight? I'm saying, some raw paleo shrooms? Ohhh myy gooddddd! I cain't be getting arrested though so we gots to be cool!

If you don't have any spots then let's look for some farmland near miami to raid for real bro.

Mushrooms are sacred for a reason, and I find labeling them comparable to alcohol laughable. I reeeeally don't mean any offense because I respect you a lot raw-al but can you elaborate?

I mean, I credit these little helpers for changing the very way I view the world and myself, where as I credit alcohol for an abusive stepfather, many badly damaged (physically and emotionally) friends and family and a bout of deep depression while I was  in 8th grade, along with a loss of a lot of friends.

But then again, just like foods, everyone reacts differently to substances and my poison may be your panacea and vice versa.

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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 07:44:06 pm »
Without getting into speech mode, (difficult for me)  any mind altering substance is a crutch of sorts. It does do damage, dependent on dosage and repeated exposure. You probably won't see any in the short term. I am not saying if you touch it you will grow hair on your palms.  ;D

In paleo times, brief usage as when a person found shrooms would not be problematic, as you couldn't just go on the net or to a store and buy it. But now that you most likely can buy anything, the temptation is to do so. Repeated usage is no different than repeated usage of alcohol.

Cooked food IMHO is also poison but it's similar, in that it won't kill you quickly.

I don't think that any substance should be illegal. Marijuana etc etc should be perfectly legal. That is just politicians pushing their morality on the rest. Ron Paul tells the story on how marijuana became illegal and it is an amazing travesty of power.

As far as something being sacred I think you'll find that it means associated with precautions under the supervision of an elder, in the proper setting, with an outcome in mind.
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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 12:11:51 am »
Well absolutely, I wouldn't recommend going on that voyage of the mind more than a handful of times per year. I know some people take it to extremes and will eat these kinds of vision givers many many times in a year, but I think that is by and large pretty uncommon. These things are not given to that kind of consumption due to legality, availability and the loss of self-control involved with them.

And I'm sure strictly speaking magic mushrooms are biochemically damaging, but not in the order of alcohol, due its availability, quantity typically imbibed and social acceptance.

I'll have to disagree with blanket statements like all mind altering substances being a crutch. They can be, like anything else, but they certainly aren't always. It is an excellent way to shift your perspective or possibly open yourself up to new worlds and ideas. I have never in my life used mushrooms more than 3 times per year. A crutch is something you need a regular basis as an enabler.  Your clothing, your non essential foods (foods you eat strictly for pleasure and which are not healthgiving), friends and family are far more of a crutch than something like mushrooms.

Have you ever had a high dose, ego loss? Because I've never experienced as much with alcohol. Black outs, maybe a couple times in my self-destructive youth, but that did not bring a profound and lasting paradigm shift like a level 5, near death, ego loss trip the first time I ate mushrooms (which taught me a ton of respect for them!!).

The only thing I've learned from alcohol is to stay far away from it. Except perhaps for the occasional unpasteurized microbrew or glass of wine once in a very blue moon.

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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 01:09:29 am »
I have completely lost my taste for all of this. I'm also not telling anyone what to do with their life. Go nuts. (in the positive meaning  ;D ) Life is meant to be enjoyed.

The supposed object of the taking of psychedelics I am guessing from what you are saying is an experience of spiritual, call it what you want.

Any person whose books I have read or have met in person will tell you that chemically induced experiences are short lived  and damage the finer physical connections that make the real experience possible. This is verified by the typical hangover period post administering. There are no shortcuts.

There are many paths up a mountain, but they all involve some sort of effort.
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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 01:35:39 am »
Anyway, what kind of input were you looking for boss?

I can offer some, for experience but I've only had access to fresh mushrooms once. I've heard it said a couple times that the raw, fresh teachers facilitate a different experience, which would make sense as things change biochemically in the fungus' tissue.

Have you been over to erowid? You might find some info there, if you look under experiences and some of the articles may have some info also.

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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 01:24:44 am »
Id say be very careful with them. Set and setting is very important. Make sure you are in a good mood while taking them. Iv gained a lot out of it but stay away from psychedelics at this point as I find iv already learned what I can from them and no longer want to risk my sanity with them for now at least. Iv almost killed myself a few times due to severe depression and existential crisis during a trip but figured out that I start feeling bad, the trick is to just to lay down or sit down somewhere and make sure not to move at all until the ill effects have subsided. Remember that it is only the drug talking if you are in this situation and make sure to utilize the technique as I feel it may have saved me several times. Coming out of these experiences I feel as though my mind was stronger for it but not everyone makes it out as lucky as me and some get arrested due to their behavior which i dont imagine is fun at all in such a situation. You may also be put in a loony bin for a while and injected with drugs if caught. I reccomend doing it as far away from society as possible if you do partake.
It can be a very rewarding experience but just like anything very rewarding it comes with some risk. Just read up on it before and make sure you are in a good mood and away from society. and make sure you remember the technique and maybe write on your hand or something that you took a drug in case you need to remind yourself. also i would say fresh would be better than dried.
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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 04:04:51 am »
I've always wanted to take a trip. My first one was horrendous, and led me pretty much here.

I got my phychedlic trip, found the good foods. Left the bs behind me. And I wanna experience the trip again. Once per year.

Occaisionally smoke some cigs, drink a drink or two.

Relax.. Enjoy my life. Not dick around the bull shit.

So yo, hit me up in March.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 06:31:48 am »
Its funny you mention that because my last trip a long while back was not fun at all. It made me think about my health though and how thats more important than anything and that I need to focus 100 percent on improving my health. I havent tripped since then or wanted to either but I guess I can thank it for leading me to my newfound highly improved health. Although it was acid that time and not shrooms I consider it pretty much the same thing. I compare the difference as being mushrooms=lord of the rings and acid= the matrix but they are basically the same. Both fungi after all.

also I suggest you ditch the cigs and alcohol for cannabis. it is much better for you.
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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 06:35:34 am »
I just read a post where you say you overcame schizophrenia. Since psychedelics can actually make some people who never exhibited schizophrenic symptoms actually turn schizophrenic I wouldn't recommend you toy with these drugs.
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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 07:59:52 am »
I'm naive.

Why would do you like going on these "Mind Trips"?
Is this what they call a "High"?
What is the attraction?

Me, I enjoy real sex, the kind of sex that makes babies.
Plus I'm also addicted to babies and raising babies.

Are mind altering trips and highs supposed to be better than real sex?
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Re: pychedelic mushrooms
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 08:49:04 am »
What is your attraction to raising babies?

There are plenty of user accounts of the entheogenic experience for each of the myriad entheogens out there, they can describe in detail the draw. But no words can accurately recount such an experience. Such things are not given to verbal descriptions, they must be experienced.

Choosing not to experience this, leaves you outside any possible comprehension of the actual experience.

It's like trying to appreciate a Van Gogh by looking at a blurry, crumpled, black and white photo.

Sex is great, so are mushrooms.

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 09:00:26 am »
It can help you explore the natural of reality and time and other such things. Bring you more in touch with the spirit world and other dimensions. These things can turn out badly but also yield great rewards.

For example, on my first freakout (ill make it short and simplified) i ended up staring at a streetlight while ancient symbols flashed at me a million per second until that light turned off and no other light. This had me a bit freaked out and i walked into the park and all the shadows in the grass turned into a very crazy interdimensional bug (I had a great fear of bugs my whole life at that point) until everything around me looked like it was made of these horrible bugs. Everything retained its shape and color but my entire image was still made up completely of these interlocking bugs and I was jsut freaking out and thought I was going to die or something. Then I just realized it was all in my head and basically turned of my fear and it all went away. Then I realized my fear of bugs was all in my head and I was never scared of them again after that and pretty much not of anything since then.

Thats just one example of something I have gotten out of it. Another is that tripping ended my atheism. This is quite common.

But then again Iv almost killed myself while tripping so its a two edged sword. Come to think of it all the freakouts happened when i smoked weed while tripping, so my reccomendation is to hold off on that till later if u wanna definitly be safe.

Everything you can gain from it can be gained elsewhere and with other methods. It is more of a shortcut, and a more dangerous.

I personally dont feel the need to do it anymore as Im not sure of the physical effects so Im staying away from it and all other things im unsure of at least until my healing is 100 percent complete. My health interests me much more than drugs at this time.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 09:03:14 am »
and no they are not supposed to be better than real sex. This isnt heroin or crack where u just do it and feel great. Psychedelics have nothing to do with physically feeliong great and are more for exploration. It is a completely different level of conciousness.
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