canned meat

[aLptHW4k4y]

This is an interesting point, and we can infer it’s the reason why there are detoxination processes in the form of bacterial and viral illnesses. These processes are likely to be – and as a matter of fact, really appear to be - adapted to small occasional intake of grilled or cooked food. But they are just overwhelmed by constant intakes of large amounts of cooked food and they tend to runaway in such conditions, becoming dangerous or even deadly.   

Maybe the immune system gets compromised by cooked food? That's certainly possible. A smaller immune system downtime would be easier to recover from, but a longer one, not so easy.

[svrn]

Fine. So you say that since something is not natural for us to eat, it's not natural for bacteria either. Because we're so similar to bacteria? Or how else did you come to that conclusion?

at this point I've concluded that you are either a troll or just a complete moron.

the reason it's not natural for bacteria either is because it"s not natural for any living organism to consume non living foods.  you will never see a wild animal eating cooked food and bacteria are just another wild animal. they are not exempt from the rules that apply to other organisms, they are just smaller organisms. Why are you even here if you don't accept that cooked food is toxic?

[TylerDurden]

Well, wild animals do eat cooked foods when they come across them. This is only a matter of survival, though, since they don't have constant access to food like we humans do.

The argument that we are adapted to eating small amounts of cooked foods does not ring true. If we were so adapted, then there would be scientific evidence for that - but there isn't. All one can state is that all living organisms have the means to detox poisons out of their system. Since cooked foods are not as harmful as cyanide, say, they can be detoxed out of the human body over a period of time, provided that the relevant body isn't constantly consuming cooked foods.

[goodsamaritan]

And some humans are less adapted to cooked foods than others.

* that's us *

[aLptHW4k4y]

Why are you even here if you don't accept that cooked food is toxic?

I never said/implied that..
You keep saying stuff of which you're so sure they are correct, like they are some hard facts, when they are just thin air made of illogical conclusions.
Think more critically and use some common sense, instead of copying whatever some health/nutrition/fitness/whatever guru told you.

[cherimoya_kid]

I never said/implied that..
You keep saying stuff of which you're so sure they are correct, like they are some hard facts, when they are just thin air made of illogical conclusions.
Think more critically and use some common sense, instead of copying whatever some health/nutrition/fitness/whatever guru told you.

I totally agree. I think you probably do have a point, that small amounts of lightly-cooked foods are not going to create enormous health problems in the vast majority of people. 

However, cooked food is highly addictive, especially cooked carbs, and people are more than willing to lie to themselves about the cause of their health problems, specifically because of cooked food's addictiveness.

It's a slippery slope, at least for an entire population. On an individual level some people are smart and strong-willed enough to be aware of their desire for cooked food, and be in control of it.  Most people aren't that strong and smart though, especially in American society.  We're raised on junk from day 1, so we're screwed before we really even get started.

You'll find a lot of people here who were actually raised on fairly good, non-SAD diets...and I'm pretty sure that's because it's because the addiction isn't as deep-seated in them.  My belief is that the strength of the addiction relates to how much and how early a child is fed a particular junky food.  That's not the only factor, but I think it's the biggest one.

[svrn]

I never said/implied that..
You keep saying stuff of which you're so sure they are correct, like they are some hard facts, when they are just thin air made of illogical conclusions.
Think more critically and use some common sense, instead of copying whatever some health/nutrition/fitness/whatever guru told you.

Your the one with no common sense since I have to explain everything to you. I already explained to you how no animals have eaten cooked foods for over 99 percent of their existence and are therefore not adapted to it. Bacteria are also animals which are not equipped to deal with such chemicall altered food. Just because humans can take a little bit of cooked food without dying doesnt mean anything. It going to cause you damage whenever you do it just like you can take pharmaceuticals everyday and appear fine, but it is definitly causing damage and you will see the ill effects eventually. It is so very simple to me that I cant understand why its hard for you to comprehend.

and everything I told is a fact as far I know based on my research and personal experience. please point out which part of my explanation was illogical as you are really getting on my nerves and would like you to back up something you said for once.