Egg/juice fast?

[joej627]

Hey guys, digestion has been really outa whack for a fairly long time.  Stuff just does not move through like it should.  I'm not really strong enough to fast on water for long.  I read somewhere aanjonous did fasting with just veggie/fruit juice and raw eggs?  Has anybody experimented and have good results with this getting everything moving again?

[eveheart]

Are you trying to improve digestion or elimination? It sounds more like elimination. I've never found quick fixes to address the overall problem. I spent years trying things that were successful in the short run, but not in the long run. Those things included colonics, ingesting fiber, and cleansing fasts.

Raw paleo is what has helped. I've made slow changes, usually one at a time for a few weeks each so I can assess whether I'm improving in the long run. My number one solution has been to get enough good fat in my diet. Another thing that has helped is getting more fresh, bitter foods (greens) in my diet. I keep everything raw.

(If I contemplate eating cooked foods, I say to myself, "I am choosing to be killer-constipated this week." Usually, I change my mind and stick to raw.)

[joej627]

Yea, i was doing ok for awhile.  I think my problem was implementing raw dairy and too many fermented foods initially.  I also realized i had almost nothing with magnesium in it in my diet.  Anyways, adding some foods to get the magnesium.  I was feeling better and had cheated a bit once a week or so but it started creeping up on me.  I think at the moment dairy, grains are my main issues.  I was also doing enzymes which helped initially but not so much anymore.  I think as i am getting closer and closer to a raw diet they become pointless and just confuse the body.  I eat vegetables cooked with some raw fat usually coconut, olive, marrow, etc.  I usually eat most cooked food with fermented foods.

[raw-al]

If a food presents you with issues, then why consume it?

I love dairy, but I do not recommend it or anything else to anyone. I recommend those foods that you like and do not have issues with.

I heard the magnesium story also and decided to try it because I consume a lot of dairy. What a mistake.

I tried consuming pumpkin seeds, although I doubt they were raw. I tried spraying it on my skin. I tried taking it in tablet form. Each one was a disaster.

Result I do none of these and I am fine.

People get a blood test and think that because at one particular time their (fill in the blank with whatever chemical vitamin they or their practitioner have dreamed up ) is low or high then they have to supplement with some or another... whatever.

People do not realize that the time of day that their blood is taken and the time in relation to a meal (before/after), using the toilet, level of exercise, sex, alcohol, cigarettes and a myriad of other things will affect the levels in the blood.

Blood is used to transmit nutrition to the cells and to fight infection and a number of different issues which all require a cornucopia of differing chemicals, which are all manufactured from the cornucopia of foods that we consume. If you need magnesium in your feet why would your blood vessels take it to your arm where the needle was inserted. Just the act of inserting a needle into your arm will set off alarms in your body that will affect the chemicals in the blood.

There are chemicals produced in various parts of the body that no one knows the composition or purpose of despite what some people will try to claim. These chemicals might be very complex but when taken as a single chemical such as magnesium it is like saying there is a lot of traffic on the highway and six are Hondas.

I remember years ago a student pilot came to school with bad news. He was declared just about dead, because he had consumed eggs for breakfast on the way to the doctors for a blood test. He was put on some kind of medical red alert.

Modern allopaths know not what the f#%k they are doing when they measure blood. They take someone who is in the hospital with a serious condition which their blood system is desperately trying to fight and they draw off blood just when the patient needs it the most.

[CitrusHigh]

I didn't read everyone's posts, just responding to your first post Joe.

For my part, I have one to two egg and banana smoothies each day, putting me at 6-10 eggs each day. I do it because they're phenomenal (I also put cocoa powder in there to push it over the edge of delicious insanity), but they're also super nourishing and my body seems to like them. I put in usually a:

 1/3 to a 1/2 banana
3-5 pastured eggs from our wonderful chickens
cocoa (to taste, seriously can be just a dash, or carob if you want to keep it rawesome.)
Sometimes I add raw cream if I have it, but that is rare when we're not milking.

But I certainly wouldn't straight up fast if I were you. Your body needs raw animal foods, especially fats just like someone else said.  You can also probably look in to raw liver smoothies.

EDIT: Woops! Got you and 24rulz confused, my bad!

Cheers!

[joej627]

Thanks guys,

I live in Indiana and we have an amazing local farm here we get all this stuff from.  I mean, the smoothies sound amazing but i think sugar is a bit of an issue and isn't that kinda nix on the food combining eggs/bananas?  Raw eggs seem to agree with me although i think my liver might have some sort of sulfation issue.  Maybe just a healing reaction happening from the good fats.  Yea i can get raw liver, bone marrow, tongue, heart, suet, steaks, etc.  Also salmon.  I am trying to get into mono-meals.  I am realizing that most of my symptoms have to do with my main organ systems.  If i can clear out the liver/kidneys/digestion i should be feeling a hell of a lot better.  Any breakfast ideas?  I can't quite get down with eating raw beef/salmon for breakfast and i don't want to eat eggs every single day even though i love them haha.  So smooth to go down.    Did anybody else just have this feeling after they started the diet like this is whats going to fix me?

[CitrusHigh]

When you hear people talk about don't combine this or that it's good to just note it in your mind, and then do your own thing while paying attention to the effects. If something doesn't bother you, eg no digestion issues, or you don't get signs from your body saying it doesn't like the combo, then that is ok to do.

Just because people say don't combine this or that doesn't mean it's solid or set in stone. You'll find that throughout your journey with this way of eating you will have to make modifications according to what works and what doesn't for you. Food combining is no different, so experiment and enjoy the process, you'll look back fondly one day on the newness of the diet that changed your life and gave you control over your health.

[raw-al]

My back

When you hear people talk about don't combine this or that it's good to just note it in your mind, and then do your own thing while paying attention to the effects. If something doesn't bother you, eg no digestion issues, or you don't get signs from your body saying it doesn't like the combo, then that is ok to do.

Just because people say don't combine this or that doesn't mean it's solid or set in stone. You'll find that throughout your journey with this way of eating you will have to make modifications according to what works and what doesn't for you. Food combining is no different, so experiment and enjoy the process, you'll look back fondly one day on the newness of the diet that changed your life and gave you control over your health.

My background is Ayurveda and as such I have had it drilled into me a number of don'ts regarding combining, mostly with milk, ie milk and meat, milk and salt, milk and fish, milk and veges, equal amounts of honey and ghee (clarified butter)

However since doing raw primal I have discovered that combining doesn't seem to be as bad as long as milk and veges are not combined. Salt is bad news for a lot of people (not everyone) and I still would avoid mixing it with milk.

Cooking possibly adds so much other crap that combining is just added to the heap.

[joej627]

Raw-al,

If i'm not mistaken, doesn't ayurveda (sp)? recommend good amounts of cooked foods as well?  I personally find that i need to cook vegetables and such now.  Are you familiar with the yin/yang principle in eating?  As in cooked eggs are more yang than raw eggs,etc.

[raw-al]

 

Raw-al,

If i'm not mistaken, doesn't ayurveda (sp)? recommend good amounts of cooked foods as well?  I personally find that i need to cook vegetables and such now.  Are you familiar with the yin/yang principle in eating?  As in cooked eggs are more yang than raw eggs,etc.

Yes and no. LOL

Ayurveda has a long history. Originally, the knowledge was just the usual folk knowledge that people had from living in a certain area. It wasn't like folks went to the apothecary when they had problems. They had no word for nature because everything was nature and everything was potential food. The knowledge base grew and then at some point a very bright person(s) came up with a theory that separates Ayurveda from the pack and they wrote it down.

This theory was/is the dosha theory, although really that theory is but a small part of a larger theory that explains the origins of creation 'Srishti Utpatti Karma' or Eternal Process Of Creation where we transformed from being part of God to having a human form.

Ayurveda was originally all about eat drink and have Mary 
It was about what will cause you issues and if you have the issues what to do about it. It had nothing to do with cooking or raw food.

Basically if you have a wasting disease you eat the flesh of an animal which is robust and large. If your disease is from overconsumption or overweight, then you should eat the flesh of an animal which is small, wimpy and thin like goat. If you have a wasting disease in the winter, then sleep with a robust (large breasted) woman. Remember this was written by guys. In order to keep yourself internally clean, there is a chapter in the Caraka Samhita on smoking to keep yourself healthy and laxatives etc.

Eventually the people who administered this system (Brahmins or priests) started hearing about enlightenment and spirituality. Then they started adopting it and some of that theory was enmeshed with eating vegetarian.

Whether this was because a vegetarian diet is considerably cheaper and thus a monk could subsist on very little cost and meditating consumes very little energy, or if it is as I have heard that the ultimate state in the seven states of consciousness, Asamprajnatasamadhi is only possible on the very light vegetarian diet, I cannot say for sure.

I have other stories, but time is short. 

Anyways, grains cannot be eaten uncooked generally, so thus Ay. seems to say eat cooked.

There may be references to a certain a food, but not necessarily how to prepare it (cooked or raw).

Regarding cooked eggs. I love to eat them but I do not like the very upset stomach I get from eating them.

I am insufficiently familiar with Yin/Yang to comment on it.

[Dorothy]

Raw-al,

If i'm not mistaken, doesn't ayurveda (sp)? recommend good amounts of cooked foods as well?  I personally find that i need to cook vegetables and such now.  Are you familiar with the yin/yang principle in eating?  As in cooked eggs are more yang than raw eggs,etc.

I'm familiar with yin/yang. Yin/yang for me it is a secondary after following what my body tells me it can digest and use well. For me personally what works - (when I'm eating what I've learned is best for me)  is to eat only what I can eat raw and then balance it yin/yang for myself after that. If I can't digest a vegetable raw - I don't eat it. There are all sorts of individual variables depending on health, genetics and energy - so if cooked vegetables works for you better than raw and you are not ready to try a diet without vegetables - whether or not cooked is more yin or yang is not that important compared to whether or not you can digest something. Eggs the same. Try them all different ways. I must admit though I am a little prejudiced as it's hard for me to believe that any form of cooking an egg yolk would make it more easily digested - but experiment and see.

Then, after you actually are eating what is basically digestible - then you can think about balancing your diet in terms of yin and yang - which is always different individually and in balance with other aspects of your life including where you live, how much exercise, meditation etc. etc.

[eveheart]

If i'm not mistaken, doesn't ayurveda (sp)? recommend good amounts of cooked foods as well?

I've been consulting with an ayurveda practitioner lately. She supports raw and unprocessed foods, including raw animal foods. While many ayurveda practitioners recommend cooked and processed foods, including reconstituted powdered green juice drinks (blech!), ayurveda per se seems to be more about balance in all areas of life than about recommending cooked foods.

I found my raw-friendly practitioner by attending a ayurveda seminar and talking to the various practitioners in attendance until I found one who wasn't a vegetarian. I have benefited from her balancing recommendations, especially along the lines of flavors and seasons.

[Dorothy]

Eve - if there are any particular suggestions in terms of seasonings etc. that you have learned I'd love it if you would share them here.

[raw-al]

Eve - if there are any particular suggestions in terms of seasonings etc. that you have learned I'd love it if you would share them here.

That would be the same as following some else's drug prescription.

[eveheart]

As raw-al said, the recommendations for me are based on a very extensive examination and analysis. As in most healing systems of the ancient world, imbalance is treated. Two people can have the same disease or symptoms with exact opposite origins. A good practitioner knows how to evaluate a person, each symptom, each organ, each season,each action, and each direction. It's more than a simple yin-yang or hot-cold dichotomy.

[Dorothy]

I wrote a response to Al's post before - but it doesn't seem to be here.

It was something like: Duh - of course - it's not about seasoning for taste. Please forget I asked that! 

[Alton]

I watch out all the posts and i agree with the all reviews.Egg is the best for good
health and protection.Eggs giving us good nutrition and energy.But I like the fresh
juice.It is the best source for get the vitamins and nutrition.

[mistygreen]

I am taking one boiled egg and fruit juices daily at the time of breakfast..I think fruit juices are good for digestions.