Not only that, most wild bears grow up through babies into adults eating generally the same diet, so they don't get the sensitivities of an unnatural diet to cause "deformities" compared to what would be healthy development. For example, I suspect most people with carb intolerances grew up eating poor quality carbs and therefore their body has trouble identifying it correctly, almost like an allergy. I know that's the case with me. I'm sure growing up on grains is why I have ADHD and why carbs bring back ADHD symptoms. I'm not saying I'll never eat carbs again, no, that's silly. I'm saying there is healing that needs to occur, if at all possible. However I digress and want to get back on the water/salt issue.
Interesting dr. d I get the same effect from water but view it as a negative.
Water kills my appetite and I start to become malnourished. I dont see why you view consuming less food as a positive thing. THe more food I can get into me the better I feel.
THe problem with water and why it makes you not crave food is because it dilutes your digestive enzymes and alkalinizes your gut. This is especially bad for meat eaters since we need an acid gut. When it is alkalinized we lose cravings for meat.
People often mistake the fact that they get thinner when drinking water as a sign of being healthy. This is a complete fallacy, there is nothing healthy about being so thin that you have six pack abs. This is all the result of our sick society pushing starvation culture on the masses in preparation for austerity.
I consume about 1500 to 1800 calories in milk with added cream per day alone. I consume about 3000-3500 calories per day total every day for about a year now. I feel so much healthier with layer of fat covering my whole body. No six pack here, I found that most six packers I meet are weaklings, all truly strong men have a belly of some sort, look at the strongman competitions.
What did you replace your water with when going off water?
Food is the only thing I could use to replace my water with. I don't eat many fruits and veggies nor do I have desire to juice them. I can't do dairy, even raw. Honey is about the only carb I do okay with right now, and even that makes me very thirsty.
This is a very tough issue because athleticism does not equate to health. It confuses many people and they are hard to separate. You see a strongman and you know he's athletic but they always end up with destroyed bodies by the time they are 40. Marathon runners are basically anorexic but can outperform any of us. Sprinters have the most rounded of athleticism but often consume pizza as a staple. So how do we differentiate between what they do and what we should or shouldn't do? I'm sure most drink lots of water. Exercise tends to promote thirst and hunger, and you "gotta stay hydrated."
I may get flack here for this but I really don't think a little excess fat is good. I think it's good to fluctuate weight. I don't think one should get to the point of anorexia and one should definitely work on functional muscle building over aesthetic muscle building. I would argue 25% bodyfat is too much. Sorry, that's just chubby. You lose so much athleticism at that bodyfat percentage, your joints become inflammed from the weight, your poor knees and heels!!! Max bodyfat imo should be about 17-18%. Most pictures of hunter gatherers I see are at or below that. Lowest bodyfat should occur early spring at hopefully no less than 9%. Abs show at 12%. You become quite vascular at 10% also. Function>appearance, but at optimal function, healthy appearance occurs. Look at Ido Portal. He eats a "paleo" type diet as far as I understand and have seen videos of him eating bugs, which seems to be much more than most of us do here. Low bodyfat does not instantly mean malnourished. Too many factors in play.
Drinking water: Gosh this one's a toughie. I respect your knowledge on it a lot, Svrn. I still can't see why the extra energy and decreased hunger is a bad thing. Not only that but clarity of mind. Eating more food instead of drinking water only worsens the symptoms. Shouldn't that simply be clear enough to say that it's obvious that drinking water should be the option. Feel bad, drink and feel better. Feel bad, eat and feel worse. Feel bad, drink raw milk and feel worse. Feel bad, eat fruit and take a nap and be out of commission for the day. I feel weaker when I eat more than I'm supposed to. I AM weaker. I've compared fasted workouts to after eating and after eating a lot, fasted I definitely have the most output and drive to hit failure. Also, if I can't drink water or milk, what am I SUPPOSED to drink? Blood seems like a reasonable and natural option were I a paleo hunter, though I simply don't have access. Maybe I can cut a deal with my beef supplier.
One thing I can think of for extra energy/decreased hunger is that coffee gives the same effect to people. However, it is the drug causing the unnatural push. The energy derived from water is a natural energy, not hyper, clear headed, and no effect on emotions.
Hopefully like the rest of us, I'm willing to learn and change and accept that it's not the correct or optimal way to live. I'm just going off of what I've done and the best route for me. Also, from what I've read about long living historical figures that drank a lot of water. (though Svrn may argue from a conspiracy POV that that history is falsified to promote a water drinking agenda. I'm not mocking him either, I think that may be a completely valid point).
