The downside of raw paleo, tiredness?

[Inger]

And here was me hoping there would be some magic ingredient to take the 'edge' off Cheers Inger. Will try it out soon.........

Nah.. Busgrw.. if you are wimpy like me, then just close your nose. Brave people need not to...

[Inger]

I'm sad you live across the pond Inger. We're about the same age, I think we'd get along quite well!

Yes, sad indeed. I met a man on the cruise yesterday in the bar and we talked and I told him about my mackerel-smoothies and other stuff.. and he wanted me to be his wife. He thought I would be a perfect mom for his kids.. (he was divorced) Unbelievable. I would rather think men would run away when hearing about my strange habits. Uh. He was hard to get rid of really. When I finally did, there was another young man on my side.. maybe 20 yo or so.. I guess I better stay away from bars. But there was such a nice live music I wanted to enjoy.

[Inger]

You probably need someone very athletic.

GS.. I guess high testosterone makes men like that, without doing too much exercise...
I do not like bodybuilders at all though. But yes a manly shape is sexy for sure. Today I see breast on men... preggy-look.. not good..  my own dad has this too. Tells alot about whats up with the hormones..

[papangue]

Thank you for your advice Inger, I’m going to try what you said. Maybe that’s a good way for me to get used to the taste of fish, as I never liked it.

[goodsamaritan]

Here. 
Take raw fresh mackerelheads, cut one head into maybe 6 pieces with skissors, directly into your blender / mixer. Add water to get nice consistence, that you can drink it. Mix until smooth. Enjoy. 

Interesting.  I will try this too.

[Chris]

Inger, could you substitute sardines for mackerel? I can get fresh sardines. How in the world did you ever come up with this concoction?

[jessica]

i agree with what inger says, about men lacking testosterone, is like you can sense it!  it may have to do with how much pollution is in our world and food systems.  that is why i suggested that perhaps charlie has a hormonal problem.  he has a high sex drive, which someone already explained is actually common to men who are ill, but is gaining weight/muscle in a more female pattern....sounds like the endocrine system

[Inger]

Inger, could you substitute sardines for mackerel? I can get fresh sardines. How in the world did you ever come up with this concoction?

Yes, of course! Every fish from clean waters will do! That is soft enough to mix into drinkable smoothie! You can use the whole fish BTW. I use the heads and liver and fishmilk and roe and heart if I can find it... not the intestines yet.. cause I am a pussy... but maybe soon. Fishliver is so good for us! All these are.. just.. WOW!

If I get this smoothie 1-2 times / week I am very happy! No need to eat it every day I guess because it is real powerfood. You can of course. Maybe you get superpowers then.. 

I came up with it all by my self, as I bought this expensive, beautiful Norwegian mackerel and did not wanted to throw anything away. First I thought about making broth from the heads and bones but as it is a fatty fish this will not turn out good (omega 3 gets rancid destroyed fast by heat). So I figured I will make a smoothie. It could only be healthy.

Sure there are parasites at times in mackerel. I has some yesterday, full of parasites. I put the heads in my freezer.. I could not drink them.. uh. I looked up on the parasites in internet and I am not really afraid anymore, it is just a little yucky. I know I have eaten parasite-infected fish before, not only once. And I am still here and well. So I guess everyone need to outweight the risks and benefits themselves. For one that is eating a SAD and not living well it might be dangerous. For one who live in tune with the nature it might be.. beneficial? Anyway, these parasites in mackerel cannot survive in humans, only a few weeks and they die eventually.
You can get stomach discomfort and such, sure. But I figure I am healthy enough to get some.. no discomfort so far. I do eat some wild herbs at times that are good against parasites. Ginger too, I eat it often raw on my fish. Can't hurt. Must make it uncomfortable for the little worms in me..
 
I know this is SO NOT mainstream. I am sorry. But sure I feel good.

[Chris]

Yes, of course! Every fish from clean waters will do! That is soft enough to mix into drinkable smoothie! You can use the whole fish BTW. I use the heads and liver and fishmilk and roe and heart if I can find it... not the intestines yet.. cause I am a pussy... but maybe soon. Fishliver is so good for us! All these are.. just.. WOW!

If I get this smoothie 1-2 times / week I am very happy! No need to eat it every day I guess because it is real powerfood. You can of course. Maybe you get superpowers then.. 

I would never call you a pussy Inger. Not after the food that you ingest! Over in America we have this TV show called Fear Factor. Contestants are challenged to eat all kinds of weird stuff for 50K. I think you could handle your own! lol . I'll have to give your recipe a try. Thanks for your reply! I had a question for you. Are all Norwegian girl's as beautiful as you are? Because if they are, I'm putting Norway on my list of destinations! Thanks again Inger!

[goodsamaritan]

Maybe you can import / invite Inger so she can claim 50k from that TV show.

[raw]

Wow! Inger, you go girl "raw mackerel-head-smoothi" ! I don't mind to be a guest in ur house. You r truly beautiful.

To Charlie4444, I remember from another posts that u r on some type of drug. So there u go again. Once u have drug, it takes some times to get ur energy back. Honestly, I don't know any one who complain about the low energy after adopting on RPD

Also ur adrenal and thyroid glands are responsible. Please, try to buy doctor Ron's  thyroid and adrenal powder. If you have access of raw arenals and thyroids, that would be even better catch. Also people who suffers mental problems, they usually love more to have sex. But physically usually they are the weaker one. It seems like ur body is recovering on RPD. You just need to add some good glands, raw fats and probiotics like high meat and VSL#3 enemas. Then getback to this same post and let us know all about that. Best of luck

[Charlie4444]

I think pornography has something to do with it.

[goodsamaritan]

I think pornography has something to do with it.

Whoa.  That's new.  How much porn and how much ejaculates in a day and in a week and in a month?

[Charlie4444]

Whoa.  That's new.  How much porn and how much ejaculates in a day and in a week and in a month?

Well, why do you ask?

[goodsamaritan]

I think pornography has something to do with it.

Whoa.  That's new.  How much porn and how much ejaculates in a day and in a week and in a month?

Why do I ask?  You brought it up... you think porn has something to do with your tiredness.

[Charlie4444]

Whoa.  That's new.  How much porn and how much ejaculates in a day and in a week and in a month?

Why do I ask?  You brought it up... you think porn has something to do with your tiredness.

technically, I never said that.   but do you know anything about masturbation and adrenal fatigue besides google searches, any experiences?

[goodsamaritan]

When I was a teenager until 21 we called masturbation the universal solution. 

to wake you up, and to get you to sleep.

At that age, you could probably do it 3x a day or at least every day.

But it gets less so as you get older.

At almost 43 I may like sex 1x to 2x a week.

I know my friend healer thinks he is being excessive at 4x a week of sex and he is 51.

[raw]

Sex has a healing effect and when people get very ill especially mentally, they have more sex drive and they are also unable to have sex. That creates a real problem. Charlie44, u r not exception. Especially taking some poisonous drugs, impair u temporarily. But wisely u have chosen RPD and proper balance of RPD for  days, months or even years, u will get back that force again.

At this moment artificially u can boost ur enery by taking supplements, if u feel completely energyless. B12 shots therapy will be extremely helpful for u. RPD is the only real solution, but to handle extreme crisis , for temporarily u can try this and side by side RPD. Also niacin therapy will help u a lot I think.

[Dorothy]

The drug that Charlie said started his problems was Ritalin and he is still using. It is still unclear to me if he has or is still taking other drugs.

This is not a raw paleo issue. You can't keep on taking the drug that started your problems and expect the problems to stop.

[Charlie4444]

The drug that Charlie said started his problems was Ritalin and he is still using. It is still unclear to me if he has or is still taking other drugs.

This is not a raw paleo issue. You can't keep on taking the drug that started your problems and expect the problems to stop.

^I have taken ritalin like 8 times in 3 years!  You think it's the problem!!!

[Dorothy]

Charlie - you said that your problems started after you started the Ritalin. You are the one that said it yourself. It's a powerful drug that effects your BRAIN and causes EXACTLY the symptoms that you are complaining of!

Some people can have extreme reactions to chemicals and drugs and have troubles detoxing them out of the body. Not only are you not actively trying to detox that drug from your system, but you are continuing to dose yourself with it.

You told me that it was more than 8 times - but it doesn't matter how many times you've taken the drug when you know that your problems started with the beginning of taking it!

That drug might have and might still be messing with your brain chemistry which then can make your brain react strangely to basic good foods.

You can't determine anything about the raw paleo diet unless you do it alone - without the other chemical experiments you are doing on yourself.

This is a raw paleo forum Charlie - I don't want people that are not taking pharmaceuticals or recreational drugs to think that they might suffer from raw paleo or might not find relief for their mental/emotional issues doing the diet in it's entirety - on it's own. That's the reason why I'm talking about this in public. Your issues are not ones that really have much to do with the raw paleo diet.

I truly wish you all the best. I hope that what I'm saying makes an impact and that you are willing to stop taking Ritalin and try the suggestions already made on how to help detox it from your body/brain and in particular to open up the blood flow to your brain to help you cleanse and heal.

But please - stop blaming raw meat for your problems on a forum filled with people that have nothing but wonderful experiences with it. Other people with emotional problems that could be helped with the raw paleo diet might be reading your posts.

[aLptHW4k4y]

That drug might have and might still be messing with your brain chemistry which then can make your brain react strangely to basic good foods.

the half-life of this drug seems to be 4 hours, so I can't imagine it is still working if he took it long time ago.

[CitrusHigh]

Pot leaves me fatigued far and beyond the 2 or so hours of psychoactivity, so the half life life not a good indicator of a chemical's over all physical effects. Also this has been true with me for other drugs like coke, valium, hydrocodone, etc, all with varying half lives.

[papangue]

This link  about fasting to cure mental illness could be useful


http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1974/pdf/1974-v03n04-p301.pdf

[Dorothy]

The half-life does not really mean much. Some drugs can change the biochemistry of the brain and it can take a good long while for the body to bring it back into chemical balance afterward - if it ever does. The body also has ways of isolating certain elements in order to try to protect itself which later can be released.

There are people that have done LSD for instance that can go through trips even decades later from a single dose.