Thanks Raw-Al. Yes, I understand that airplane pilots sometimes see UFOs but they are extremely reluctant to write a report because it would drive them into troubles, isn’t it?
I stopped to read about UFOs about the time Jim Marrs published his book “Alien Agenda”, so I didn’t know about it.
What is the explanation of cows mutilations? I’m very suspicious of people who pretend to have all the answers. Sorry Al, but Nassim Haramein is apparently a con along with so many other charlatans pictured in this page:
http://www.jp-petit.org/nouv_f/projet_camelot/projet_camelot.htm
See down the page “La fondation thrive ou les foutaises toriques, avec la participation de Nassin Haramein” which could be translated into something like
"The thrive movement or the torus ring crap thing, with the participation of Nassim Haramein”
Same in English, but the page is incomplete and the part about Haramein is missing:
http://www.jp-petit.org/nouv_f/projet_camelot/camelot_project.htm
A thorough debunking directly in English:
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/who-is-nassim-haramein/
These cranks who write wacky and weird things discredit the others who are seriously and scientifically trying to comprehend the phenomenon. No wonder that the UFOs topic became a laughing stock.
Iguana,
Re the airline pilots, you have to put yourself in their shoes. Why would they bother? It's basically a case of "Holy shit, look whats off the port side" "wow". If they report it everybody and their dog will make fun of them and what purpose would be served? Pilots are generally a conservative lot and fluffing the public image of their safe airline is not Kosher. It's not like all pilots get together and conspire to keep it secret. There are Youtubes with former astronauts talking about seeing them. Some former astronauts beat around the bush by saying that it is ridiculous to think we are the only ones in this universe. They usually wait till their careers are over before stepping on those landmines.
Most I've seen was a meteorite which whizzed by me in flames many years ago, probably at 9000' ASL.
Re the cow mutilations, they are real and pretty much impossible to have been done by us humans owing to the accuracy etc of the incisions. You really have to read Jim Marrs' book, because he gives a detailed history of the who, what, where, when and why.
Very briefly, the aliens are monitoring our planet and we are considered to be the babies in regards to technological development in the universe. These beings have somewhat destroyed their own planets with technology and are using earth more or less as a lifeboat. The reason that they are mutilating the cows is (roughly) that cows are a main food source for the planet from the point of view of meat and dairy and since they have some genetic kinship to us, they are like a litmus test for the state of our bodies, re ingestion of airborne pollution etc. As far as the aliens are concerned they are just carrying on studies using cows, like we carry on studies using mice and cats.
BTW in Jim Marrs book he clearly states at the beginning of a paragraph if what he says is speculation or hearsay by saying loud and clear "This is Conspiracy Theory"
Re Nassim etc and crop circles,
Nassim is a fascinating fellow. I know someone who took courses from him in Vancouver BC. His impression is like mine in that he is like Aajonus. He is brilliant but sometimes maybe too brilliant and he like to dump on the turtles he works around, so they naturally are inclined to fight back. He gets sidetracked in some wonky ideas. His theories are not mainstream in the least and those in mainstream are not likely to admit they are wrong whether they are or not.
In his 4 DVD set Crossing the Event Horizon" He talks about some fascinating theories of the universe/Big Bang/microcosm-macrocosm and his explanations are awesomely simplified. He is a born teacher.
His explanations of crop circles are not his manufacture as there are lots of books on them.
You have to see clear, up close photos of the plants that are bent in the real crop circles. They are bent very smoothly in a way that could not be done by the two jackasses in England who had their 15 minutes of fame claiming to make them. These guys would be bloody busy and capable of super-human feats of magic to be able to create a number of them in one night in England and then zip over to Canada on the same night do another, then zip down to the US on one night.
Honestly the people who believe some debunkers are what I can only describe as gullible, LOL who seem to be incapable of understanding scientific examination/inquiry. Sorry TD you really ought to do your homework on this one.
How could you make circles and various geometric shapes, with precision of less than a cm and have no tracks leading up to the areas, no footprints at the site, no damaged stalks other than a bending, which in order to duplicate in a lab, they had to bend using a very fast heating action that stopped as soon as it started, practically, so that the plant was not killed? In the lab this heating damaged the plants. Also the plants continued to grow even better after the bending, giving better than normal yields. Then there is the obvious physical effort of pushing down the plants. The huge areas that are bent would require an enormous expenditure of strength to do so smoothly and neatly. No two old goofballs are capable of that. All they are capable of being is idiots and no doubt along with the money they made from the news outlets, they made it into the history books and have a laugh along the way.
I have to catch a ferry now so I will close for now.
