What is the protocol in curing Mouth Cancer?

[yeetingt]

Hi,
I am living in Pohnpei in the Federated States of Micronesia where many people chew betel nuts mixed with lime powder, cigarette and betel leaves. At the same time, people go an extra mile in using what is called "snuff". This is a form of powder that they put in the mouth to hold between the gum and lips. Hold it there for some time and will give a sense of drunkenness just like with chewing betel nut.

I am a member of the Pohnpei Cancer Coalition and I represent the Alternative Therapies and Medicines.  Recently, we have an increasing number of deaths and admitted cases of mouth cancer in Micronesia. Many were referred to the Philippines and to Hawaii and died. Many are still yet to be referred. With swollen face and lips, these victims could no longer eat while at the same time in pain. This is very saddening. As a member of this coalition, I will be doing a presentation to the Coalition on "Alternative Therapies and Medicines" and I came across Edwin's site on the Cure Manual and this forum. It gave me some insights. A very good source of information indeed. I just want to seek if there is a protocol for mouth cancer victims with alternative medicine especially those who are having difficulty in eating with their mouth. Any input will be highly appreciated.  Ted.

[Iguana]

Hi Yeetingt, welcome.

I had a look at your island on Google Earth, it's absolutely beautiful. Looks like a volcanic island, not an atoll. Was it named Ponape before?

I think the first thing to prevent mouth cancer would be to stop chewing betel and associated lime powder or "snuff" as these stuffs are known to cause mouth cancer, AFAIK.

Then, a strictly raw paleo diet has been often enough to let the body self heal. There have been several cases of cancer self-healed with raw paleo instinctive nutrition. If you can, try to raise chicken and pigs with raw food only so that you could have a source of clean eggs and meat in complement to the raw fish. Commercial meat and eggs are not suitable.  You must have plenty of coconuts and fruits there! 

Best wishes
François

[cherimoya_kid]

If people have trouble chewing their food, then they can blend it or mash it into a paste.

[PaleoPhil]

Raw eggs, raw bone broth (bones soaked in water with vinegar or lemon or lime juice), and lemon or lime juice in water as a beverage, can be eaten without chewing. Mashing food makes sense and some people even bolt chunks of raw meat, though the finer it is chopped/minced, the easier it presumably would be to digest.

[raw-al]

This is not the raw paleo answer but Edwin can also put you in touch with his healer friend who can treat this with his Rife machine.

[LePatron7]

Hi Yeetingt. If you're looking for info you can present. Here's a few things you could mention.

The cancerous properties of HCA's, which are produced by cooking.

The benefits of grass fed meats, especially raw based on above point.

Also, though I've never tested them myself, I think raw apricot seeds have anti-cancer properties. Look into "World Without Cancer" on youtube and google for more info.

[William]

Hi Yeetingt;

If chewing betel nut etc, is traditional and the increase in mouth cancer is recent, it does not make sense to blame the things that people have always done.

Detective work is needed to find the cause.

For curing cancer, the iodine protocol causes apoptosis in cancer cells, so they die while it is harmless to healthy cells.
http://steppingstonesliving.com/resources/iodine/
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineindex.html
http://w3.newsmax.com/newsletters/brownstein/iodine4.cfm

So the iodine protocol arms the immune system, and to make it strong eating raw natural foods is the way.

[yeetingt]

Many greetings from Micronesia and thank you so much for all your inputs,

Yes. The island of Pohnpei was formerly called Ponape during the US Trust Territory period. I am not originally from Pohnpei. I am from Kiribati and my wife is from Pohnpei. I met her in Fiji when we were studying at the University of the South Pacific in 1996. We moved to Pohnpei in 2000 when Fiji had its 2nd coup. And yes, we have plenty of coconuts, fish, breadfruits, bananas, yams. Pigs are raised as part of the culture but nowadays, the use of nutrena feeds (starter and grower feeds) is a common practice to for piggery. Most Micronesians also eat dogs and turtles as part of their delicacy. Myself, I don't because it is my family's totem.

Chewing betel nut was not a culture of Pohnpei it was introduced by Yapese and Palauans . However, it is part of the culture of Yap which is another State in the Federated States of Micronesia. Traditional chewing of betel nut did not involve cigarette. It is the  contemporary chewing with style that now includes cigarette, cement powder, vodka, tobacco, garlic, curry powder, snuff etc.

I have with me the zapper5 and the superzappicator that I purchased from bestzapper.com and I also have the Terminator zapper I received from Don Croft. I also made a simple pulser out of wood and nails as an improved version of Dr. Clark's simple pulser. I use these in addition to other alternative medicines to treat myself, my family and others. I haven't experience the effectiveness of the Rife machine  but I'm sure it is pretty much the same with other zappers.

What we use in my country for cancer is papaya roots. However, this treatment takes 2 to 3 months but combined with other alternative treatments including RPD, I'm sure it will make a big difference. Many of our people cannot afford to go to hospitals because of money. They tend to look for alternative treatments. In this case, many took them long trying to find the right alternative treatment until it is too late and they had to be admitted to the hospital and while in the hospital been poisoned even more with drugs. Many of the cases like these were discharged from the hospital and left to die. Nothing else can be done.  My goal is to merge alternative treatment into our existing medical system so that integration will provide a better solution to improving social and public health.
Now I haven't try but I am keen to know and find out. Will the colon cleanse, liver flush and kidney cleanse help in curing mouth cancer? Thank you to all and God Bless.
Ted.

[goodsamaritan]

Yes, colon cleanse, liver flush and kidney cleanses are basic detoxes that all your sick should do.
VCO detox I have seen shrink swollen tongue cancer where the sick could not close his teeth.
- coffee enemas for cleansing the liver if the sick's liver is too toxic.

Explore:

- Beam Ray Machines can be shared and many disinfected / treated at one time.
- Explore oregano oil (disinfect the mouth and throat)
- Explore Hydrogen Peroxide (disinfect the mouth and throat)
- Colloidal Silver (disinfect the mouth and throat)
- Use sea water as mouthwash and when brushing teeth.
- Biological Dentistry (remove all tartar and stains, hidden tartar, pull root canals and mercury, cleen sockets and scrape bone)... clean mouths with OZONE
- Explore Vander Gaditano's application of his zapper for brain tumors
- Explore hemp oil such as that made by the canadian guy, you can grow your own hemp / marijuana plants and make your own oil
http://www.curelibrary.com/blog/health-notes/hemp-oil-marijuana-cancer-cure-tool-rick-simpson-story-p1-of-7/
- also eat make raw hemp / marijuana juice
- pyroenergen.com machines can be shared and will electrically relieve cancer pain.

Is it really just mouth cancer? 
Tongues are they swollen?
Or is it also throat cancer? Throats being eaten away?
Do they have swollen lumps on their necks?
Smell?  Does it smell bad of infection?

- Diet, listen to what Iguana said and study that direction as well... trust and study instincts of the sick so you get a pattern
- Diet for beginners / malnourished... aajonus' prescription every 2 hours feeding works and works very well.

If the person finds it hard to eat or swallow anything you can give temporary nutrition rectally via enemas:

- olive oil enemas
- virgin coconut oil enemas
- other nutrition like green vegetable nutrition

[yeetingt]

Thank you so much GS for the information. I will look into those.
We have many cancer cases but the most common cancer case is of the mouth and is increasing at an alarming rate.
These mouth cancers are similar to the images I have attached.

Warm regards
Ted

[goodsamaritan]

Explore the elimination of Fluoride Toothpaste and commercial mouthwash.
Also the elimination of betel nut chewing and tobacco.
Also the kind of dentistry being done... fluoride treatments... procedures.
You could do a survey.
It may be a combination of all those factors causing this.

[Iguana]

I didn’t know Ponape had a new name, so I wondered “what’s this island??” and searched on Google Earth. Kiribati… that’s a whole vast group of coral islands… in which one were you born?  You met your wife in Suva… There, I met a beautiful girl who could perhaps have become my wife as well but unfortunately, except “yes’ and “no”, I didn’t know one word of English at the time. I could understand she came from Rotuma, though.

I went to Rotuma sleeping on the deck of  a small cargo ship named “Aoniu”. The next ship anchored there two months later, so that I stayed on Rotuma for two months. Been back there 17 years later with my wife and 9 years old son. Men immediately remembered me, even my name. All together, I’ve been 3 times in various Fiji islands, also in Tahiti, Moorea, Huahine, Rarotonga, Pago-pago, Tongatapu, Vava'u and Happai. Unfortunately never in Pohnpei.   

I love the traditional Polynesian / Micronesian culture and way of life. Your people have never known the disasters of the cereal agriculture and livestock farming, so they are not possessive and tend to share everything. Unfortunately, wherever there’s tourism, people get spoiled and western ways take over.

Some (quite rare) breadfruits ripen well and become delicious raw, soft and creamy. But we must beware of the first sign of instinctive stop, otherwise it triggers a strong nausea which makes you unable to eat it again for several months or years. At least it’s what happened to me. In Rotuma there’s a fruit I haven’t seen anywhere else, they call it “we”. Once they killed a small sea turtle and cooked it. I tried a chunk raw but didn’t like it.

[Iguana]

Ted, the pictures you showed are horrific.

As a matter of fact, our knowledge of living systems interactions and processes is extremely limited compared the overwhelming complexity of the living phenomenon.

Therapeutic medicines (be it western, chinese, ayurveda or whatever) focalize on the treatment and elimination of the symptoms. At least in the western approach ever since Pasteur, virus and bacteria are viewed as aggressors which should be eliminated. Practitioners believe that we know how and that we can heal, generally by using noxious methods, chemicals or plants.

We have a different view. It’s to eliminate the root cause or causes of the disease and then let the body spontaneously recover its equilibrium and health. In any case when there is a healing, it is always the body which has recovered health, independently or in despite of the therapeutic treatment applied. We avoid to intervene in systems so complex that we are far of fully understanding them and instead we let the nature reestablish its equilibrium. We don’t heal or treat.

In practice, we have had tremendous success just by completely eliminating all processed, cooked, mixed, spiced, Neolithic and modern foods and let the person instinctively choose the appropriate food she or he currently needs, by smelling and tasting. In several cases considered hopeless, remission resulted. Of, course, it might sometimes be too late, but at least the best conditions for spontaneous healing are provided.

If the person can't eat, or if nothing smells in an attractive way, then a water (or coconut water, perhaps) fasting is the way. 

PS: Infectious diseases, viral or bacterial, are welcome. They never runaway out of control under instinctive raw paleo nutrition and allow the body to expel some specific toxins, thus promoting cancer healing. Contrary to cancer and auto-immune diseases, these detoxination illnesses are easy to cut off — with antibiotics for example — but since they are beneficial it's better to let them do their work!

Best regards
François

[William]

I agree with Iguana.

[PaleoPhil]

Coincidentally, I came across mention of this raw meat topical therapy for lip cancer:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/TheShipsList/2005-10/1128858520
"Her father had a cancer of the lip and the remedy was a half puond [sic] beef poultice to draw out the poison." (19th century Scotland)

[cherimoya_kid]

Coincidentally, I came across mention of this raw meat topical therapy for lip cancer:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/TheShipsList/2005-10/1128858520
"Her father had a cancer of the lip and the remedy was a half puond [sic] beef poultice to draw out the poison." (19th century Scotland)

Wow. The lies that are perpetrated about health in the name of greed are legion.

[goodsamaritan]

We tried slabs of raw beef meat on my son's enormous eczema lesions on his legs in 2011.
It was comfortable while the bloody slabs were on him.
It is worth a couple of tries looking at those infection pictures.

[PaleoPhil]

Did you use it with the fat-side against the skin, as was apparently traditional in the past? Did it help at all?

Another common traditional poultice was a "linseed oil" or linseed meal (flaxseed oil or flaxseed meal) poultice. My grandmother used to use that, with amazing results (such as healing overnight a hole in my father's foot when he stepped on a nail and it went through his foot), and someone I recommended it to reported very good results overnight and I've seen it work instantly on an inflamed muscle pull that my father got from playing tennis. As he wiped the red inflamed area with the oil, the redness instantly cleared and he reported that the pain went away. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I wouldn't have believed it. I still don't understand it.

[yeetingt]

Thank you Iguana, Goodsamaritan and all.

GS for the various sites and the many advice and info. I really appreciate it. They are really fascinating and reliable sources. So the raw beef meat is healing topically? That's interesting!

Out of curiosity PaleoPhil, how do you prepare the flaxseed oil?   

Iguana, thank you for your word of advice and wisdom. That is why I enjoyed and am honored to have joined this forum.  I would like to learn more from all of the guru here. The pictures I shared are similar but not as bad as those I've seen with my eyes when I was in Honolulu, Hawaii four months ago with some referrals from Pohnpei. Their faces swollen, lips swolen with open lesions, big hole and very bad smell and crying in pain.

AND yes, I met my wife in Suva. We stayed there for 6 years before moving to Pohnpei. So during my University years I toured almost 3/4th of the Island of Viti Levu (exterior and interior) doing our field classes. Fiji was like a second home to me in those days and I even started speaking the language but then my Fijian started fading away after I met my wife. Now I am fluent in Pohnpeian and I'm left with only a few Fijian words that I know. I'm glad you are familiar with our part of this world.

For your question, I was born on Tarawa atoll. The atoll is divided into two, North Tarawa and South Tarawa. It is South Tarawa that became the Capital of Kiribati and that is also where I was born and grew up on. We have one breadfruit variety there that can be eaten raw when ripe. It tastes sweet and creamy and I think it is what you described. Plenty on the island but I haven't seen one here in Pohnpei. Hope I'll go back one day and bring in seedlings.
 
God Bless you all.
Ted

[PaleoPhil]

For my father's nail hole, my grandmother boiled flax meal in water, which creates a gooey, mucus-like substance, then she put the flax in a sock and let it cool a bit, to make a poultice, then she had my father put the poultice on the injured foot and wear it overnight. By morning the hole was gone and he couldn't tell that he had ever had it.

I recommended this to a customer and it greatly healed his chronically bad foot overnight (I forget what the specific problem was).

My father applied flaxseed oil to a paper towel and wiped it on his pulled leg muscle and I watched the redness go away with each swipe and his said the pain was greatly relieved.

I don't understand how it worked so well, but in these cases it did. With some things, such as Grover's disease skin rashes, it doesn't help nearly as much for whatever reason.

[cherimoya_kid]

Phil, was that raw or boiled flax oil, that worked for your dad's inflamed muscle issue?