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Oh man, 2009 started with a bang in my research.  I stumbled onto Quantavolution and Catastrophes by Alfred de Grazia.

See http://www.grazian-archive.com/quantavolution/QUANTAVOL/home.pdf

The compelling book in it I'm reading now is
http://www.grazian-archive.com/quantavolution/QUANTAVOL/covers/sb_cov.pdf
Solar Binaria
Origins and History of the Solar System.

Author hypothesizes that beginnings and quantavolution of life... that the solar system started out or for at least a million years was binary star system... and the last binary star system had SATURN as a fixed "sun" during the golden age... the time of the garden of eden... and when saturn demised as a "sun" the great flood reported all around the world... not just by the jewish account of Noah... the new planetary arrangement made life much harder... so it is today. 

So in Paleo times this translates to a different atmosphere, different magnetic surroundings, more sunlight, not just from the sun that rises from the east and falls at the west, but also from Saturn the stationary sun, and the whole arc of life giving plasma charge enveloping the earth, mercury and mars fantastically supported a lot of life and a lot of mutations.  Venus didn't exist then, venus is a very recent addition to the solar system.

Quantavolution may be set to take over the simple theory of evolution which runs at a snails pace... quantavolution is evolution galloping on millions of horse power.

To whet your appetite... check out this short video clip: When Saturn Ruled the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11g9wj22J8I

I need to read and read and read.  I hope some of you will be interested in this too.  This affects our projections of what paleo times were, how humans may have evolved, how much healthier we can be if we knew exactly what the golden age provided us then.

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One of the first shots fired by the Quantavolution camp
- the synchronizing of history -
Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky: Worlds In Collision - Best selling book in 1951?

Below is a 6 part video presentation, go to youtube to see the rest of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KsKA8p6HDI
Worlds in Collision Part 1/6

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David Talbott - inspired by Velikovsky and refines and gathers with plasma physicists and electric universe scientists collectively bring a more believable, logical and historical picture of our past as told by our ancestors... who were not stupid nor superstitious... our ancestors were very intelligent people... all you need to do is listen.  The story is very simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZkFcP0l20U
Remembering The End Of The World - introduction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clq-GiqvL9o
Mother Goddess & the Dragon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfW_1B9n1_A
Golden Age and Doomsday

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Re: Quantavolution and Catastrophes - Connected with the Electric Universe
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 05:33:31 pm »
Again from the Thunderbolts Project:
David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill

A new movie in the making:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X_jeHrJYIw
Symbols of an Alien Sky, Part One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcHtvaCrJzk
Symbols of an Alien Sky, Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2CyXtD0J2I
Symbols of an Alien Sky, Part Three
(See a computer artist concept of how Saturn may have looked during its glory days as the earth's primary Sun)
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Why am I obsessed with posting this topic?

At the age of 7, I began an interest in astronomy, reading and actual observations.

As I grew older, I learned first hand how to identify stars, constellations and planets and use star maps and telescopes.
In college I read about the mathematical theories about space and time and big bang and hypothesis about planetary formation, star formation, and life on earth.  Boring.  No sparks.  Pure conjecture.  Dark matter --- it is superstition.

I'm an engineer, programmer, network administrator, hobby healer so show me the science... not the math.

Then in the 21st century the internet is now wildly popular.  The Thunderbolts project with their electric universe theory makes me feel like a kid again.  It's fun.  It's logical.  It is repeatable in the laboratory.  Electrical phenomenon was recorded by people in the past around the world. It is a whole lot more believable than any other of those non-theories.  And they have the audacity to predict!!!  That makes engineering sense alright.

Why this is connected with our health and our diet.  These catastrophes they talk about are in very recent times.  We're talking 14,000 years ago... 12,000 BC ballpark recent times.  And in these 14,000 years the earth and its inhabitants went through serious sudden and cataclysmic changes. 

Maybe when the first cataclysm sparked the beginning of the neolithic age and sparked the need for agriculture.  It's not that people made a wrong turn by turning to agriculture.  Maybe the conditions on earth changed drastically, the people had no choice but to turn to agriculture.  Maybe there were mass extinctions of those yummy animals.  Maybe the atmosphere was less nutritious.  Maybe there was less than ideal sunlight(s).

This affects our health.  How does 2009 atmospheric conditions, sunlight, nutrition available, electrical conditions compare to 250,000 years or 500,000 years or 1,000,000 years ago?  Most probably not the same.

If in the golden age of Saturn prior to 4,000 BC humans lived several hundred years... did they count their years same as we do today?  Most probably not.  They had different seasons.  They had 2 suns.  They couldn't see stars.  They had no moon.  Just look at how recently made the Chinese Lunar Calendar is and the Roman Julian Calendar is.

All I'm saying is the recent catastrophes put an additional variable in our search for the best health possible.  Yes, we are notable self experimentors.  And this little bit of knowledge may just guide us on our way to find what is best for us.

Best wishes to all.
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I'm an engineer, programmer, network administrator, hobby healer so show me the science... not the math.


But math is the language of science.  Most engineers have to take years of math.  Math explains phenomena of physics like the fact that work is force times distance.  And if you have a variable force, then you can use integral calculus and still determine the amount of work performed.  Not only that, with only mathematics at your disposal, you can minimize the surface area for a given volume, and determine the least amount of materials needed to pack a given product and find the dimensions of the container (thus saving on resources).  But you know what I love most about pure mathematics?  With it, I can explore functions of many variables - functions I cannot even graph because they exceed the bounds of the senses I possess.  I can trace them in 3 dimensions, but I cannot see the original.  It is with math that we can go beyond our limited existence.

Peace to you in your continued love of science.

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Maybe I needed to qualify my statement:

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I'm an engineer, programmer, network administrator, hobby healer so show me the science... not the math.

My much younger brother is a mathematician and he and I have our differences.  He used to take up engineering in college... but the experiencial logic / reality of what works in the real world was not something he appreciated.  He shifted to pure math and statistics course away from engineering.

What I meant to say was that I appreciate factual observations first... then explore the mathematics behind the science.  Mathematics is a tool that is a slave of reality, a slave of observations.

Modern cosmology and even dating of artifacts presume that their mathematics are correct and discard or make up stories about what they are observing if it does not fit their mathematical model.  Bad science.

The uniformitarian evolution hypothesis of what many raw paleo diet guesses are based upon may be historically wrong.  Historically, there have been catastrophes going on.  We have only traced to 14,000 years ago and this period alone is full of catastrophes every few thousand years.  Life and human life has been resilient so far, even with the drastic changes in living conditions.

I consider paleolithic assumptions ( which keeps changing ) and need to personally verify it with self experimentation to see what actually works with the nutrition we have available today.

I'm observing our ducks and they live in our garden... not a lake or body of water available, they have learned to hunt down insects.

I'm rambling... searching... questioning everything all the time... like a little kid.

Lately this week, I've been experimenting with meals of oysters until full - 4 full meals already.  Oysters are magical.  I'm feeling healing all over.  Maybe I have been zinc deficient for quite some time.
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Video: Lost underwater civilizations
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 09:14:07 am »
If humans became modern 500,000 to 200,000 years ago... we humans would not have merely sat around and did nothing until we advanced to our point today.

These recent discoveries of underwater civilization ruins show civilizations some 8,000 to 10,000 BC.

First of all, the flood stories around the world are real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYBrAehw_rc

Human civilizations may have rebooted several times already.
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I'm afraid that the underwater city/atlantis theory has been debunked. Turns out those photos were of tracks of boats used by google to map the ocean using sonar.
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I'm afraid that the underwater city/atlantis theory has been debunked. Turns out those photos were of tracks of boats used by google to map the ocean using sonar.

Tyler, that report about Google Earth not finding atlantis goes something like this http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Lost_City_of_Atlantis_Not_Found_on_Google_Earth/551-99235-643.html  Pathetic reports by some people smear the REAL DISCOVERIES being made.

That is not what the work of Graham Hancock is about.  Graham does not talk about "atlantis".  Graham in the previous video introduction showed him following the Indians in their dicovery of an ancient city in the Gulf of Cambay dated 9,000 BC, complete with artifacts.  Then on to Japan's underwater megalithic ruins where the Japanese are convinced that these are ancient ruins dating to some 8,500 bc. 

Graham Hancock's work is about searching for the worldwide lost civilization as far back as 10,500 BC, those who made the Sphinx, the Ruins at Ankor Wat and many others have the same astronomical - architectural technology.

More of Graham Hancock's work globetrotting around the world comparing the different lost civilizations he points to these old civilizations being in touch with one another during PRE-HISTORY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KUVix96NsY

16 part special: Quest for the Lost Civilization

Amazing fellow, he taps the experts at each site.

Part 16/16 shows his current theory conclusions.

His official website can be found at http://www.grahamhancock.com/
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 Summary:
This is the fourth 10-minute segment of the three-hour video presentation in development, "Symbols of an Alien Sky" - a reconstruction of the celestial dramas that inspired the myth-making epoch of human history.

This segment introduces the Electric Universe, and begins to explain how the two separate theories of David Talbott and Wal Thornhill were merged into a compelling foundation for further study.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnrkn_T5l6s

visit http://www.thunderbolts.info
prehistory, ancient civilizations, plasma discharge, electric universe, solar system catastrophes, history, explaining the myths and the gods
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Thunderbolts: Symbols of An Ancient Sky Part 5a and 5b - Understanding the pre-history of civilization
Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:51 pm Posted in General Health edit

The Thunderbolts team has come up with their 5th installment in the preview to their new 3 hour DVD in the making: Symbols of an Ancient Sky. These videos make me teary eyed. These are questions I’ve always asked in my mind and these answers are so satisfying. This all ties in with human pre-historic living conditions, ancient civilizations, astronomy, electrical universe.

One simple truth will change the future of science and our own understanding of human history. The ancient sky bore no resemblance to the sky we see today. Above human witnesses planetary formations hovered close to the earth…

This video is the fifth segment - divided into two parts (a and b) - of a three hour presentation in development.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyhKl-XywtY

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hws24yDcv8

This has everything to do with health. As I’ve explained in the previous first four videos, the conditions of life on earth were also different prior to the great flood. What was life really like in Paleolithic times? Abundant animals - humans lived nutritionally superior lives. Today humans live on crisis times food: grains and cooked vegetables… survival food yes… but optimal food? Not.

from: http://www.myhealthblog.org/2009/06/29/thunderbolts-symbols-of-an-ancient-sky-part-5a-and-5b-understanding-the-pre-history-of-civilization/
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Jim McCanney does a weekly internet talk on this and related things - he is a real scientist, and a good communicator - at:
http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/WeeklyRadioShowArchivesSubPage.HTM

After reading Velikovsky, and having heard of the Mayan record of 5 ages of man, at the end of each "all men died" I think that the catastrophic history of the earth is the most likely to be true. McCanney shows how it happened.

This makes paleolithic food a much more complicated subject.

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Thanks for reminding me about Jim.  I listened to him a lot via his archived MP3 shows.  The man just needs to upgrade his website technology.  He explains he does everything himself and he's been fumbling at it for years.  Good radio shows, hard to read website presentation.  Jim's theories are in line with Quantavolution, Thunderbolts, Catastrophes and the Electric Universe, electric comets, electric sun, etc.

I like the way he often promotes the Colbrin bible and the survival strategies... keep seeds... sprout them...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoThe9EzcaE

The Ancient Sky bore no resemblance to the sky we see today.
The ancient cultures described what they saw as is, no metaphors. No metaphors.  No metaphors.
They say planets, near and causing widespread destruction and changes to earthly conditions.

Saturnian Cosmology, Catastrophism, Electric Universe.
Evidence Based on thousands of archeological sites.
Even better.
With timelines.
Long read but worth it.

A different take on the origins and progress of humans.
Why the main human food supply ran out and humans had to turn to agriculture to survive.

http://saturniancosmology.org
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Massive Electrical Sculpting on the Planet MARS!

New, new new stuff!
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