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Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« on: November 11, 2014, 01:32:02 am »
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Iguana,

On a related topic, I have a Canadian friend and an Australian friend who live in Manila because they say finding good sex or any woman to have sex with in their respective countries is like "looking for a needle in a hay stack". (their exact words)

Especially when they get to around 50+

Anyone would like to share their experiences in your countries?

Lack of sex seems to sound more alarming and immediate than nuclear war!
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Re: Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 01:42:51 am »
Iguana, basically all I really want is to live a peaceful, uninterrupted life in a log-cabin, say,  miles away from civilisation. However, this is an impossible dream even if it is a reasonable goal to attain. I mean, there are all sorts of evil things preventing me from attaining such a goal such as government taxes, money(many areas have become overpriced due to land speculation), overpopulation, pollution,  excessive government laws etc.. A nuclear war would, at least, help get rid of  all those threats. Plus, I would far rather live in a situation where I had to rely on all my resources just in order to survive each day.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2014, 01:48:52 am »
Hmm, having just one child can lead to the child either being spoilt if the parents are good ones, or the child being neglected if the parents are bad ones. Having a fellow sibling can help provide support(and a playmate during childhood).

Sex tourism, GS, has a rather bad reputation. The idea is that Westerners go to poorer countries in order to experience things that are somewhat illegal in their own home countries. Foreign online marriage bureaus are also fraught with danger as most female profiles are actually prostitutes or conwomen.
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Re: Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2014, 01:53:57 am »
My question was, are you guys getting enough or "any" sex from real females from where you are?
Is lack of real females who want to put out making your societies turn "gay"?
Is sex in your lands like "finding a needle in a haystack?"
Sorry for the naive cross cultural questions from a naive islander.
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Re: Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2014, 05:05:53 am »
Iguana,
On a related topic, I have a Canadian friend and an Australian friend who live in Manila because they say finding good sex or any woman to have sex with in their respective countries is like "looking for a needle in a hay stack". (their exact words)
Especially when they get to around 50+
Anyone would like to share their experiences in your countries?
Lack of sex seems to sound more alarming and immediate than nuclear war!
My question was, are you guys getting enough or "any" sex from real females from where you are?
Is lack of real females who want to put out making your societies turn "gay"?
Is sex in your lands like "finding a needle in a haystack?"
Sorry for the naive cross cultural questions from a naive islander.
Could you split this topic since those posts have nothing to do with Putin?

I appreciate your modesty and I suppose that by « sex » you mean « genital relations », right?

My personal answer is no, I didn’t have any genital intercourse for years. I attach no value to loveless physical relations and I’m not seeking for such since I feel that they should be intrinsically attached to love, being totally unsatisfactory otherwise. I could have stayed with my ex-wife or with one of my ex-girlfriends, but since there was no longer love or in some cases there never was any, those relationships were not satisfying and thus I didn’t feel like lingering on with them.

It’s true that finding a woman willing to sleep with you is difficult: even if there’s a mutual attraction which could be or is love, that person is generally locked into a closed couple. A related obstacle is often the ambiant/cultural and/or religious way of thinking. Then, if by a rare chance you happen to encounter a lonely person you feel you could love, you don’t know how or dare not show it, and moreover tell her. If you are frank and let her know it immediately, she’s scared and tend to move away because it’s not the customary way. On the other hand, if don’t let her know it quickly, life very soon makes your paths diverge. So, yes, it’s gloomy, especially if you’re a bit shy or inhibited.

Aren’t those foreign guys looking for sexual intercourses in Philippines (as in Thailand) attracting local girls because of their money?

No, I don’t think people become gay because of a lack of genital intercourse with a person of the opposed sex.       
 
Iguana, basically all I really want is to live a peaceful, uninterrupted life in a log-cabin, say,  miles away from civilisation. However, this is an impossible dream even if it is a reasonable goal to attain. I mean, there are all sorts of evil things preventing me from attaining such a goal such as government taxes, money(many areas have become overpriced due to land speculation), overpopulation, pollution,  excessive government laws etc.. A nuclear war would, at least, help get rid of  all those threats. Plus, I would far rather live in a situation where I had to rely on all my resources just in order to survive each day.
Are you sure to have all the necessary skills plus physical and mental strength to live alone in the wilderness? Obviously, a global nuclear war between superpowers with its subsequent nuclear winter would potentially kill all life or almost life on the planet! At least it would spread radioactive and other various pollutants everywhere. Some survivors, if there are any, would become armed gangster ready to kill anyone on their path. I’m flabbergasted you ignore those likely perils…   

Hmm, having just one child can lead to the child either being spoilt if the parents are good ones, or the child being neglected if the parents are bad ones. Having a fellow sibling can help provide support(and a playmate during childhood).
Yes, it’s a drawback. But it doesn’t necessarily prevent the kid to become a nice, trustworthy adult.
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Re: Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2014, 05:30:56 am »
Are you sure to have all the necessary skills plus physical and mental strength to live alone in the wilderness? Obviously, a global nuclear war between superpowers with its subsequent nuclear winter would potentially kill all life or almost life on the planet! At least it would spread radioactive and other various pollutants everywhere. Some survivors, if there are any, would become armed gangsters ready to kill anyone on their path. I’m flabbergasted you ignore those likely perils…   
Of course, there would be perils, that would make it more fun!!! Anyway, there is sufficient scientific evidence to suggest that no nuclear winter would ever happen as a result, just massive loss of life. And, yes, I would have all the necessary skills to survive such an evironment, after all I used to camp in tents in subzero conditions on mountains and the like.
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Yes, it’s a drawback. But it doesn’t necessarily prevent the kid to become a nice, trustworthy adult.
If they become spoilt brats as kids, then they  definitely won't ever  become nice, trustworthy adults. I know several of my own relatives who fit this category/description.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2014, 05:48:53 am »
GS, you are probably looking for answers from males, but allow me to share my observations as a woman in Alberta:

"Real women" from a man's point of view is a woman with a BMI around 20 or less who has long hair and is feminine. For some guy the woman also should be under 25.  So basically a slim woman with good hair, under 25 has her pick of men (at the bar, at work, guys she meets while doing errands).  If she has perky breasts she is even better off.  She loses a lot points for being a drug addict.    This type of woman is not the norm out here.  Most women are not that slim, or feminine (don't like to wear dresses, big feet, can't wear dainty shoes ect.)

Most of these  most favorable women are in a relationship, having sex with only one male at a time. 

Some of these women have boyfriends, but cheat on them.  These women will be very careful about who they have sex with because men will always brag about having had sex with them and they do not want a bad reputation.

Some of these women are single, and will limit the amount of men the have sex with so that they do not get a bad reputation.

The remaining "real women" who have sex with a lot of men  without much consideration, are likely labelled as "sluts" and lose their title of "real woman" anyway.  But apparently these women are not sharing themselves around enough.
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There are many single women who have qualities that would cause men to look elsewhere:

-overweight.  (This is a big one out here.  A slim body is more rare than a pretty face, and drillbits (bad face, good body) often do way better than they should)
-short, ugly hair.
-smell bad.
-health problems: diabetes, hysterectomy,
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Many of these women would be willing to put out, but aren't willing to make the effort to attract a man.  Probably low energy and low self esteem.  They are also generally wanting someone more attractive than is readily available to them.
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These qualities will make men less attractive to women:


Bad Appearance:  Bald, short, fat, big moles on the face. Obvious health problems. Obvious deformities.
Poor Hygiene: Stinks, no cologne, looks greasy, has unkempt facial hair.
Ignorance: Is blatantly sexist or racist.  Loud, obnoxious, embarrassing to be around.  Makes gross jokes.  Sounds like an idiot.
No Income:  Some girls don't care if he is otherwise attractive.
Incompetent:  Someone who is bad at their job, doesn't know how to fix cars or do anything for that matter.

If a man has many of these qualities, he will not be able to find a "real woman".  Strippers will shudder when he sits in the front row.  Escorts may not even open the door for him when they look through the peep hole. He will have to pay for sex (probably he will pay more than an attractive guy, and get a lesser service), settle for a very unattractive woman or target a vulnerable woman (ie someone poor, stupid, drug addict).  These types of men will definitely buy wives from overseas, or go do sex tourism. Albertan women would rather never get laid again than have sex with these guys.

I have no idea what percentage of Albertan men fall into this "extremely unattractive" category.  Maybe 5%?  Alberta has a lot of very attractive men.
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In summary,
Very attractive males and females have little problem getting laid.  These people only have issues if they are working too much to meet anyone, or are too shy to ask, or some other logistical problem.

Average men and women can get laid, but sometimes their standards are too high, and they don't have the confidence to "put themselves out there"

Unattractive women usually give up.  Unattractive men pay, or go overseas.

There are some men who inexplicably do sex tourism or by wives, despite being attractive enough to attract a variety of Albertan females.  It makes me think they are seeking a more traditional woman to fill the role of a wife and mother.

For the most part though, men who seek sex outside Canada are men that I would not ever contemplate having sex with.

Besides, I find it somewhat unpatriotic to do so.

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2014, 06:14:05 am »
Haha, Sally! Interesting report! Your patriotic last phrase made me laugh loud!   ;D

Of course, there would be perils, that would make it more fun!!! Anyway, there is sufficient scientific evidence to suggest that no nuclear winter would ever happen as a result, just massive loss of life. And, yes, I would have all the necessary skills to survive such an evironment, after all I used to camp in tents in subzero conditions on mountains and the like. If they become spoilt brats as kids, then they  definitely won't ever  become nice, trustworthy adults. I know several of my own relatives who fit this category/description.

Scientific evidence? I don’t know, but anyway since (fortunately) we have no previous experience of such a dreadful thing, any theoretical predictions will remain highly conjectural. There could be several horrendous unforeseen consequences, as usual after each of our brilliant interferences with natural systems. >D

How long did you camp on a mountain? Didn’t you take any provisions along? What after some time, when your knife and tools become worn out, broken or lost, when you have no more munitions to hunt? (I don't speak about clothes and shoes since I know you can easily live nude in subzero temperatures  ;) ) Can you make a bow and arrows, etc.?     
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Re: Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2014, 07:27:57 am »
Hi Iguana,

Thank you for that most informative answer from France / Portugal.  Amazing stuff!

Hi Sally,

Thank you for that most informative answer from Alberta, Canada.  Amazing! 

We need more cultural exchanges like these.  Hopefully we get more contributions from other parts of the world.

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2014, 08:05:13 am »
Report from the Philippines: O, Loads of sex with no money

I will contribute what I know of the sex life of my former driver O who today must be around 53 years old.  He now drives a taxi cab, but his wife still does our laundry.  He does not do internet or visit this forum.  He won't mind.

O grew up in the province of Ilocos and was lured / fooled into joining the military as a soldier.  He's short and dark and average to not good looking but he has a sense of humor and never a shy approach to women... speaks several dialects and seems to use that ability to strike up a good opening conversation with that.

In the military by 18 he went on many long years touring our country in the south where during the 1980s the fight vs the islamic seperatists was fierce.  These areas had mixed muslim and christian people in them.  Soldiers are assumed Christian.

Soldiers in our country are poor.  But maybe there are just women who go for the guns and the uniform.

O had a girl at every camp they stayed for months at a time.  And some 7 children he left behind when the orders came for them to move out.  Some women he left still pregnant.  Thus he lost contact with them.  In the 1980s there were still no cell phones.

O says he got stationed in Zamboanga and got introduced to women who would ask for payment (how much money can a poor soldier actually pay?)  And here he was introduced to the world of Penis attachments... goat eyelashes and bulitas (small plastic balls attached to the penis below and on top or around)... the reason for the bulitas was that the women in that city demanded it (penile attachments) for their own female pleasure.

O says the use of bulitas added to his conversations and interest of the women he would converse with, if only for their curiosity.

After his squad was massacred leaving him the only survivor after going rambo, he left the military and lived going from job to job in Manila.

He got married, had 4 kids with his wife... then behind his back his wife was fooled into ligation after their 4th child while he rode a bus towards his province to get some live native chicken for her nutrition.  After the ligation his wife had become sex cold, wife was forever sexually disabled.

So he went on and found new chicks wherever he was.  One significant time he was picked up by a lady in her 30s in the town fountain.  And he had long sexual relations with her, she was his job, she PAID for his time like a worker so he could send money as a father to his wife and kids.  This lady in her 30s was separated from her husband and she needed his sexual services.  She eventually migrated to another country.

In his job as taxi driver he had several client relations, one night stands.

Then he became my driver.  And when he started working for me he was already sick with many things like UTI, kidney infection, high blood pressure, gout, to die for... plus erectile dysfunction.  So I helped and taught him to get well.  You can see his video testimonial in my www.curemanual.com website.  He got well, including from almost 5 years of erectile dysfunction.

And so he went on and on again with his womanizing, around the village and outside where he drove.  His wife would share her emotional sob stories about O's womanizing in our home compound with our maids and my in laws' maids.  My mother in law told me it was my fault that my driver was womanizing because I had cured his erectile dysfunction.  Holy crap... I just cure people for free... what they do with their lives after they are cured is none of my business. I solved my laundry woman's problem by speaking to both of them, that our home is her place of work, and you do not share your sob stories at work with our workers, our maids.  If she needed shoulders to cry on, just cry with your neighbors... not here.

And the next significant woman came, O was again picked up by a 40 year old woman who had a 16 yr old kid was separated a long time ago from her husband and this 40 year old woman still sexy, wore hot pekpek (vagina) shorts when she picked up O riding on a public jeepney. (what the hell kind of appeal has this guy got?)  She was again a sugar mommy (although O was older), she wanted overnight stays in motels, and she eventually got pregnant... which she really wanted.  Unfortunately due to some trekking accident, she miscarried, and she was begging O for another child.  O didn't want to give her another... I don't know why.

O was around 52 by this time.

What has this guy got?  No money, no looks, and lots of chicks?

I'm thinking women go into heat and just grab any man available at the moment.
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Re: Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2014, 08:44:35 am »
Sex tourism, GS, has a rather bad reputation. The idea is that Westerners go to poorer countries in order to experience things that are somewhat illegal in their own home countries. Foreign online marriage bureaus are also fraught with danger as most female profiles are actually prostitutes or conwomen.

I have 2 sister in laws who live with us and they are not poor and their current boyfriends are New Zealand Kiwi and Swiss. 

So the stereotyping assumptions about prostitution and con women is not always true.

We  do have to educate their boyfriends that going "dutch" / splitting the bill in dates as boyfriend / girlfriend is BAD FORM.  You can do that when you are married.

We do have lots of women who are available to play the HOUSEWIFE traditional roles.  She gives you love, children, affection, care, cooking, laundry, wet marketing, sex... and you do the husband of the 1950s role and bring home the bacon. 

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2014, 05:58:03 pm »
How long did you camp on a mountain? Didn’t you take any provisions along? What after some time, when your knife and tools become worn out, broken or lost, when you have no more munitions to hunt? (I don't speak about clothes and shoes since I know you can easily live nude in subzero temperatures  ;) ) Can you make a bow and arrows, etc.?     
I have been many times tenting  on a mountain. Never for longer than 5 days, though. I did usually take provisions but sometimes I did not, out of carelessness. I generally lose appetite considerably when I do hefty amounts of exercise, so having no food is no big deal if the trek is 3 days or less.
I would not mind having my tools worn out. I might have to sharpen a flint, but, in a real aftermath of a nuclear war, the few survivors would obviously have lots of access to rust-free stainless steel tools. Bows and arrows would be unnecessary too when one considers all the guns and ammunition that would be available after a nuclear war.  Hmm, maybe after some years I would have to learn how to make modern rifles but not for many decades  if I oil my guns enough.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2014, 09:17:35 am »
I spoke with my Canadian friend and he says:

Women routinely file suit against a man who is the biological father of her child (Maury Show?), for  support, and this impoverishes men?  And gets them in jail if he fails to do so? (say he has an income loss from bad business or lower salary or loss of job)

See boris becker: http://www.theguardian.com/g2/story/0,,528035,00.html

Men who are married are sued for adultery routinely, get kicked out of his own home, enslaved to give alimony, ground into poverty while still paying for all that stuff... and only gets "visitation rights" on a schedule to see his own children he keeps on paying for?   And again if he falls short of paying he goes to jail?

Is this why men pay for porn?  And just jack off?

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So men live in a Feminist Taliban state in Canada? How about the Europeans, the USA? Australia? New Zealand? UK? Any insights?

Is any of this true? 

Is this why men would rather not get married and rather not have children and sometimes resort to forcing / convincing women to abort their unborn children / get emergency contraception... because the consequences of marriage / fatherhood can be disastrous?

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2014, 09:38:24 am »
I don't want to sound like a prude, but sex is overrated.  My life is so much more peaceful now that I am single.  We aren't sexual beings, but spiritual ones.  (Might sound corny but it is true.)              news.distractify.com/yosefmaiameg/63-reasons-sex-is-overrated/
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2014, 10:50:16 am »
Ive been living with a half jap, woman who is over 50 who kind of looks like Yoko Ono. A truly remarkable woman who still has a healthy sex life. She seems to have inherited the best traits of many of the cultures she was raised in, having grown up in Hawaii and then moving to a small town in Pennsylvania. When we first got together I was amazed at how much she would dote over me and would take pleasure in doing my laundry. We have never quailed or been cross with each other, and she has never turned down sex.

I don't even want younger women anymore, in my experience they are too much trouble, sure they are nice to look at, but I would rather be with someone who cares for me. We can live and work together in peace and harmony, without the kind of drama that the mother of my children seemed to live for.

And now that I have moved on me and the mother of children can actually get along much better, she never needed the kind of love and attention that I needed and we were never good for each other, though we had some good times making babies.

She lives with us and the children now, and things are working out fairly well.
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2014, 10:56:20 am »
yes sabertooth, i can read the drama on facebook.

so you, your half jap girlfriend, your ex wife and the 5 kids are now together in a single house?

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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 10:27:01 am »
I don't want to sound like a prude, but sex is overrated.  My life is so much more peaceful now that I am single.  We aren't sexual beings, but spiritual ones.  (Might sound corny but it is true.)              news.distractify.com/yosefmaiameg/63-reasons-sex-is-overrated/

Raw Paleo Diet has enabled me to become more alpha in many ways.  And I'm enjoying being alive like a real normal human male.  No condoms. No porn. 

I used to think that sex was overrated when I was unhealthy at 33. But today at 45 with raw paleo, sex is great stuff.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 01:26:25 pm »
Yes, G.S I have a quite unique living situation and it has been fortunate that we all can live together.
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Sex is only part of the enjoyment one can attain from a relationship. I enjoy the company of my partner. She gives me massages, pedicures, darns my clothing, helps keep a roof over me. We share a world of ideas, sensations and experiences. She is a positive person for my children to live with and learn from.

People evolved to live in sexual communion with the opposite sex, and its a damn shame that there are so many people in todays world who are denied that experience. Sure many people engage in sex and enjoy it, but it seems that the social game has changed so drastically in such a short period of time that men and women have not been able to come to terms with the brave new world which has emerged. Females are now pressured to become consumers and discouraged from developing the kind of devotion to males, because now that they have become financially independent they no longer have any reverence for the physical power and great skills that made men into the sex objects, they had been in our primal past. Now male services can be bought and paid for by working girls for cheap, and so there is little reason for women to need a man around full time.

It seems like we no longer need each other in the way we once had, so that now many modern people chose to live alone, or are in shallow relationships that don't mean much. Which may or may not be a negative thing, given that peoples basic needs for human contact can be artificially met through modern contrivances such as electronic media, porn, medication, ect. Who is to say whats is best?

Now we have an increasingly genderless society where the children are raised by a hodgepodge of conflicting influences ,from overly PC bureaucrats at school to the hedonistic television which is ubiquitous to most households. Mommy and daddy live separate lives at work, and the children are raised by others outside of the family. It is increasingly difficult to be able to understand how healthy relations between the sexes can be maintained in this current environment. I grew up completely oblivious, never having been taught anything about what makes for a healthy relationship, and my ignorance lead me to make many foolish mistakes, that have taken a decade of my life to recover from.

 Perhaps the subject of sexual relations impossible for anyone to understand, and that there was never a time when it was a universally understood phenomenon. Romance, mystery, love, bonding, getting lucky are very ambiguous notions and it is up to each of us to figure out whats what.
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Re: Men and Women Sexual Relations around the world
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2014, 02:09:02 pm »
Yes, G.S I have a quite unique living situation and it has been fortunate that we all can live together.

You are the alpha male... THE MAN!  And she got her 5th child which she wanted so much.
I'm glad your children have more support now with 3 adults at home.

I interviewed an Islamic baby clothes vendor here and she was 21, the 3rd wife of 4 wives.  All 4 wives plus their 1 husband have a baby clothes stall in the big wet market in Fairview.  Her parents take care of their collective 16 children at home.

Regarding sex being "overrated", you must do sex the natural way without condoms and without contraceptive drugs... aka raw paleo sex

And if you get your women to be equally obsessed about health like we do, I'm betting she would be smoking hot too.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2014, 02:01:00 am »
You ROCK, ST.
I love how you have it figured out. Great stuff
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2014, 05:07:22 pm »
USA under sex,crime

World's Worst Deadbeat Dad Now Has 26 Kids
Records show Tennessee man has added three more dependents

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/worst-deadbeat-dad-675432

From this article I can see that the USA has some sort of welfare system for mothers / women who never bothered to choose a man who can actually support her children with him... seems it is automatic for the STATE to support these women... and then the STATE chases after the MAN later on...

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I can get a glimpse now into the differing cultures... it has to do with the laws of the land...

In my country, it is always the woman's look out to get a man who can feed her and her kids... so women must choose their men wisely... women have the freedom to choose good and when they choose bad they have the freedom to starve... but usually it is the family / extended family support system that people fall back on.

So my driver is somewhat like that guy there... deadbeat in the USA.

In my country, usually it is a family affair, the state rarely gets involved... (state apparatus is only for the rich who can sue a rich man, poor men you can get nothing)

I as a business owner and since my family's old businesses... we were never asked by the state to WITH HOLD salary from our employees... what happens is that sometimes WIVES would show up in our office during PAY DAY to make sure they see and receive exactly what is on the pay slip.  We never hand out pay to the wives, we hand out to the employees.

So to those who are visiting the Philippines... know that our women receive NOTHING from the state... when she pairs up with a MAN and she is a housewife... that MAN (and his family... as well as her own family) is her support.  We have NO WELFARE.

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My Australian friend told me, women in his country technically do not need men.  The women have careers, are given jobs by the state, and supported by the state via welfare if she needs it.

So he surmises this is why Filipinas try hard to be nice to men... because our women need men.

And the percentage of men with a decent income is very hard to come by these days.

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What I am learning is that men and women behave depending on the Culture, the ENVIRONMENT and the LAWS of the land.

So take this into account when travelling.
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014, 02:51:10 am »
You ROCK, ST.
I love how you have it figured out. Great stuff
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Thanks Inger

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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2014, 02:53:48 am »



So to those who are visiting the Philippines... know that our women receive NOTHING from the state... when she pairs up with a MAN and she is a housewife... that MAN (and his family... as well as her own family) is her support.  We have NO WELFARE.





This trend of state intervention is leading to the emergence of a more hive like humanity that no longer needs the traditional family roles..... is upon us. We can see that in hive insects that evolved hundreds of millions of years ago,  males became drones and females after giving up their own reproductive responsibilities were able to devote their life energy to maintaining the hive/state, becoming the workers.

So far the changes in human society are only on the surface, and though are pervasive in the modern world, have not been universally enacted, but its easy to see if these trends continue it is very well possible in the near future as, Aldous Huxley predicted, that families comprised of mothers, fathers their children and close relatives, will be a thing of the past. Replaced with a super state structure which will take on many of the roles of family for a more mechanized world.

Woe to this day when men become Drones and women become Workers.
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2014, 07:58:25 am »
Woe to this day when men become Drones and women become Workers.

My measly way of fighting back is when I meet a young lady in college or graduating from high school... and I remind her sternly to think about MOTHERHOOD.

All they brainwash young women these days is career career career.  No plans for motherhood whatsoever.

I have even parents stating their very wish for their children is to start thinking about reproduction starting age 31.

What are they to do? Neuter their children in their teens and entire 20s? 

So let me get this straight... the best reproductive years according to midwives 18-23 and of course we know from hindsight the most sexually active mind blowing years are now to be suppressed / wasted / controlled / neutered in the name of "career" because life is "too hard" nowadays.

BS.  If we have any reproductive survival instincts for our children, we would find a way.

Seems a big number of people are finding fundamentalist religions to be able to form families at sane correct ages.

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Imagine... your own daughters in amazingly gorgeous at their early 20s...  sexuality suppressed instead tries making babies in her mid 30s... and having to undergo infertility treatments.  Shit.  No cure for age man... AGE.

Early 20s is hot. It's the right time... for them to make our grand kids.
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2014, 09:57:59 am »
I like comparing the role of the future men in the family to that of the Drone of the ant colony. Like the drone He has no vital function within the colony, he is only expected to fly away and attempt to impregnate an other colonies queen. The vast majority of them will die alone without ever succeeding in their lifes mission. Quite sad really!

What are men of today to do in their prime years until the right thirty year old working girl is ready start a family and have her 1.5 kids? Play the dating game for an entire decade? Get a Degree and make money?

 After that point, of being conditioned to live outside of a family environment, it becomes nearly impossible for people to live in the kind of close intimate relationships needed to endure the trials of parenthood. Thus modern parents are forced to delegate parenting to paid professionals, and the cycle perpetuates.

It feels like this trend is almost an inevitable outcome of the impersonal forces of nature, and there are fewer and fewer people whom find these things objectionable. With millions of humans living in close proximity supported by technology it may no longer be necessary to play the same roles, and over time those attributes of the familial centered humanity will atrophy because of lack of use, and newer adaptations will undoubtedly occur that would allow people to be perfectly happy without having to raise their own young or have a close loving relationship with their mates .

Though there are still many of us alive today, who will keep the tradition of making love and raising children the old fashioned way, just in case the great ant hill society does not work out.
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